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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Let's all remember that even if Jefferson was a Deist (which from what I have read, he was) that doesn't mean he was anti-God, anti-Jesus or anti-religion. He was very much for the freedom to worship as you please or not at all.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphetamine View Post
    Benjamin Franklin was a Christian.

    In Benjamin Franklin's 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern."


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphetamine View Post
    George Washington - Contested, possibly Christian, possibly Deist. Not a strong advocate of either belief
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    Not a strong advocate of Christianity????

    I really think people just google things like "George Washington's religion" and then just go with the one that says he was probably a Deist.

    *sigh*

    Read his WORDS, not someone else's revisionist history.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think the country was founded upon Christian morals and the rights we have are ours because the founders believed the Christian God gave them to us.

    Well... your 'thinking' is wrong and that is troubling. Instead of relying on GlenBeck and Sarah Palin for your education, I encorge you to take U.S. History or Poli Sci class at a community college. You might learn something.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    You are all arguing and irrlevant point. I already addressed this. The US was not intended to have a Christian government. The US was intended to be a country that was open to any religion, and the religion that is dominant would make the nation one of that religion. The USA is a Christian Nation, for reasons already addressed...
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Well... your 'thinking' is wrong and that is troubling. Instead of relying on GlenBeck and Sarah Palin for your education, I encorge you to take U.S. History or Poli Sci class at a community college. You might learn something.
    What exactly was wrong with what he said? Please explain.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Well... your 'thinking' is wrong and that is troubling. Instead of relying on GlenBeck and Sarah Palin for your education, I encorge you to take U.S. History or Poli Sci class at a community college. You might learn something.
    Alternatively, you could go to Princeton for undergrad, Yale for your law degree, become one of the most prominent scholars on the relationship between law and religion, and then write a book about it:

    After a brief look at Christian thought on the proper relationship between church and state during the pre-colonial and early colonial periods, Hamburger undertakes a survey of American religious and political thought in the colonial and revolutionary time. What he finds generally contradicts what he calls the “myth” that separation was a philosophy that found a wide following among the minority religious groups present in America in those days, who chafed under the limitations created by the existence of the established churches in the various States. Instead, the sources reveal that only a small handful of individuals, such as Roger Williams and Thomas Paine, ever came close to advocating outright separation of church and state. The mainstream views of majority and minority religious thinkers alike, however, tended to assume that the survival of civil government depended on the health of religion and the morality that it inculcated in the citizenry. Indeed, leaders of established churches frequently accused the dissenting denominations of seeking an unhealthy separation of the two spheres, but the dissenters themselves seldom if ever expressed their aspirations in terms of separation. Generally, what they sought was an end to the privileged status of established churches—a sort of equal protection for all religions, rather than a separation of church and state.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Benjamin Franklin was a Christian.

    In Benjamin Franklin's 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern."
    "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    What exactly was wrong with what he said? Please explain.
    It's not based in facts on record.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    It was conceived as a nation primarily settled upon by Christians with no state church. Subconsciously, it was a great deal more Christian in appearance than some here would like to believe. Nevertheless, it would be foolish, and downright idiotic to really pigeonhole an incredibly diverse group of individuals into specific personal beliefs and political beliefs, when there was a decent amount of variety in both. Picking a few "Founding Fathers" to back up one's point about the whole group of "Founding Fathers" is far too simplistic.

    The United States has always had a problem in figuring out just how religious it should be and in what way can it be. There was always a bit of the culture war.
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