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Thread: Unemployment Benefits Extension

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which has exactly what to do with the majority of the people who are unemployed?
    Basically confidence, or in this instance a lack of confidence in USA inc to be able to sustain it's standard of living and pay down it's debts.
    If Businesses cannot see profit in future they will not hire, if they can see profit they will hire, if cost of hiring in US is too high they will either close business or move business to more hospitable climes.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    The Recession and subsequent meltdown was caused by stupid people who could not afford mortgages falling for Fanny and Freddie lies about affordable mortgages, having signed on the dotted line they had the choice when teaser rates rates ran out, either up their payments or ditch their mortgages.

    Yes it was Wall St. but it also requires peoples stupidity and greed.
    Well don't forget it was also caused by stupid people giving out mortgages with teaser rates to people who couldn't afford the house when the rates went up. Stupidity happened on both sides of that partnership.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    And that is a question I do not know the answer to as I have never seen a study or really anything beyond anecdotal evidence such as the $300 hammer story.
    Which by the way is just cross subsidization. The government did not pay $300 for the hammer. It pay $30 and used the rest to either fund a black ops or pay for overruns in other programs. The same way Airbus accused Boeing of taking government military contracts to finance parts of its civilian airline business, the government "overpays" on certain items to funnel money into other projects.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And it has been done by every administration in my lifetime. Reagan was the king of deficit spending, but some how we survived.
    And yes ,we that is USA inc will survive this recession and this administration, BUT, we survive immeasurably weakened, the USA is no longer the Power House it once was, likely we shall never be so again.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well don't forget it was also caused by stupid people giving out mortgages with teaser rates to people who couldn't afford the house when the rates went up. Stupidity happened on both sides of that partnership.
    Precisely my point.
    But the Stupid people lost out 2 ways.
    1) they lost their house
    2) they are still legally liable to repay the loan.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    If this administrations concern for the unemployed were genuine concern, they would not have given every single person in Congress a Pay Rise.

    In truth this administration is more concerned with control of the people as opposed to welfare of the USA.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Basically confidence, or in this instance a lack of confidence in USA inc to be able to sustain it's standard of living and pay down it's debts.
    If Businesses cannot see profit in future they will not hire, if they can see profit they will hire, if cost of hiring in US is too high they will either close business or move business to more hospitable climes.
    Which has nothing to do with your claim that the problem unemployed people had was pricing themselves out of work.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    And yes ,we that is USA inc will survive this recession and this administration, BUT, we survive immeasurably weakened, the USA is no longer the Power House it once was, likely we shall never be so again.
    Where we immeasurably weakened under Reagan? If not, why do you assume that we will be this time?
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    If this administrations concern for the unemployed were genuine concern, they would not have given every single person in Congress a Pay Rise.

    In truth this administration is more concerned with control of the people as opposed to welfare of the USA.
    What does pay raises for congress have to do with unemployment? Why, nothing at all
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    The bad part for the people collecting unemployment is that it's taxable income. One could opt to have taxes held out, but how many can afford to have that done?
    It's already half of what the person is accustomed to bringing home.

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