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Thread: Unemployment Benefits Extension

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Find the right industry and be willing to work for a little less until the economy improves. I am making $0.04 less a mile than I was when Bush was president. Bad economy wages go down. You can't sit and wait for a job as good and that pays the same as your old job. Some compromise may be needed.
    a few weeks ago, I had to go get my driver's license renewed, and was standing in line with a couple of young-ish men who were there to take their CDL test. They were hired by a company who paid for their school and their licensing if they would sign a two-year contract to work for a salary better than mine, and I don't make a huge sum, but it's a decent livable wage. They were really excited about the deal they were getting, and were anxious to get to work. They said the company they hired on with has "lots" of openings for drivers.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    My thought is that ending benefits will slow recovery, which is the first big step towards solving the debt problem.
    I understand that aspect but really we are delaying the inevitable.
    From what I understand our projected future economic growth is quite lousy.

    Might as well rip off the band aid and get it over with.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    My thought is that ending benefits will slow recovery, which is the first big step towards solving the debt problem.
    What needs to be happening (imo) is big incentives for businesses to get back to doing business. What I am seeing with the federal government is maintaining the status quo in long-term unemployment, but no attempt to increase productivity in the private sector. Government jobs and unemployment are a net cost, and can't go on indefinitely.
    People are hesitant to start up new businesses because they can see that the feds are going to tax the hell out of them and penalize their industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Might as well rip off the band aid and get it over with.
    Definitely- like we should have two years ago.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, people are buying things with their unemployment money, which means people have to supply those items, which is jobs. Is this simple concept too complex?
    No, it's not too complex. Does the concept of disposable income blow you away, or do you fathom how disposable income is the real driving force behind our economy? The United States didn't become an economic powerhouse by simply trading in household neccessities.

    The regulations are to prevent another meltdown like this from happening again. Saying that the regulations won't do something they are not designed to is not making much of a point.
    Regulation only do one thing: make it harder for businesses to operate. Making it harder for businesses to operate means fewer jobs. How is forcing businesses to issue 1099's to all it's vendors going to prevent a meltdown? That's an idiotic idea.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    a few weeks ago, I had to go get my driver's license renewed, and was standing in line with a couple of young-ish men who were there to take their CDL test. They were hired by a company who paid for their school and their licensing if they would sign a two-year contract to work for a salary better than mine, and I don't make a huge sum, but it's a decent livable wage. They were really excited about the deal they were getting, and were anxious to get to work. They said the company they hired on with has "lots" of openings for drivers.
    Correct we do not get rich but $50,000 is a fair wage. As I said there are jobs people have to be willing to make compromises. You might be surprised how many truck drivers I have met that have college degrees.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, it's not too complex. Does the concept of disposable income blow you away, or do you fathom how disposable income is the real driving force behind our economy? The United States didn't become an economic powerhouse by simply trading in household neccessities.
    Income - taxes = Disposable income = (wages,interest,rent,proft,etc) + government transfers = consumption +saving

    Do you know what unemployment benefits are? What effect would that have on disposable income?

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Income - taxes = Disposable income = (wages,interest,rent,proft,etc) + government transfers = consumption +saving

    Do you know what unemployment benefits are? What effect would that have on disposable income?
    Your equation adds up to exactly zilch, but thank you for playing.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    And back to the earlier point. How exactly is the proposed legislation going to get paid for?

    If we are just magically going to provide this money out of the sky, why not double the amount of the unemployment payments?

    ...or triple it? That oughta buy some future votes.



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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Where is pay go?

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