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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We should keep them going as long as unemployment(real unemployment + underemplyment) is so high that the reality of finding a job in some areas is next to zero.

    News - Economy - Unemployment Map - WOODTV.com and WOOD TV8: Grand Rapids, MI

    This is a map of the west Michigan area where I live, with county by county numbers. The numbers are the "official" unemployment rates, not including discouraged people and underemployed. Tell me what you think the odds are of being able to find a job around here.
    it's pretty bad here in FL as well. i was actually opposed to extending the benefits beyond 1 year until i had a conversation with a staunch conservative who was upset at not extending them. for certain types of job seekers, there's literally nothing here in FL. i work for a WI company, so i'm lucky to have the salary and benefits i do. at this point, i agree that they need those benefits as there are not a lot of job opportunities.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    I think one of the best things I have found to do is share EVERYWHERE links for telecommuting jobs. I have lots, I've been working at home since February 2009 and yeah, it's just me. Now granted, some portion of that was unemployment but only six months of the past what? 16 months. If people can connect to the internet they can make money. If they're skilled at say writing for instance, they can make money writing articles. They can start websites and go into affiliate marketing, or they can find a job in their own field and telecommute. But it's a matter of finding the links (and not having to pay for anything).

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    That's kind of hard to do on the minimum wage.
    Good thing the vast majority of people don't make minimum wage.
    That's mostly the area of teenagers.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Good thing the vast majority of people don't make minimum wage.
    That's mostly the area of teenagers.
    that is a novel twist on the 'blame the victim' strategy
    now it is spun to insist that the blameless victims are only teenagers
    stunningly simplistic
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that is a novel twist on the 'blame the victim' strategy
    now it is spun to insist that the blameless victims are only teenagers
    stunningly simplistic
    Not at all, employment is always subject to market conditions.
    Everyone knows this.

    You are supposed to be prepared for your future.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not at all, employment is always subject to market conditions.
    Everyone knows this.

    You are supposed to be prepared for your future.
    again, you embrace the ideal instead of addressing the reality
    hence the sophomoric responses to complex issues
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    again, you embrace the ideal instead of addressing the reality
    hence the sophomoric responses to complex issues
    So lets run the numbers.

    Unemployment in my state pays approximately $360 a week max.
    Your mortgage is $800 a month.

    Your basically ****ed with unemployment and no savings.
    Game over.

    It's really sad that personal responsibility is considered an ideal.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    My mom used to think that only people who want to be homeless are homeless. It's a choice, right? They're all mentally ill anyway. It's not like they did everything they were supposed to and then one was hit by a catastrophic illness, and wiped out the family savings, and they lost the house in the .... oh wait. Yeah, as it turns out, life happens to EVERYBODY. You never know when you're going to be hit by a tsunami. Or Katrina. Or GM is going to leave Flint MI. And if you think you do, then you are choosing willful ignorance as a viable response to the possibilities. There but for the grace and all that.

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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    My mom used to think that only people who want to be homeless are homeless. It's a choice, right? They're all mentally ill anyway. It's not like they did everything they were supposed to and then one was hit by a catastrophic illness, and wiped out the family savings, and they lost the house in the .... oh wait. Yeah, as it turns out, life happens to EVERYBODY. You never know when you're going to be hit by a tsunami. Or Katrina. Or GM is going to leave Flint MI. And if you think you do, then you are choosing willful ignorance as a viable response to the possibilities. There but for the grace and all that.

    People who think they have life figured out cause great hysteria amongst the gods.
    It has nothing to do with catastrophic unplanned events.
    Most of the people have not had this happen to them at the same time as losing their job.

    The problem stems from the fact that practically no one in the U.S. saves for that emergency and even if they do it's a paltry amount.
    People are more likely to over extend their lifestyle with debt, than to save for that rainy day.
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    Re: Unemployment Benefits Extension

    Here to make you frustrated. Gotcha.

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