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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    c'mon people
    if you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal
    if you serve yourself then there is no one to tip
    if the server is crappy, then that may be justification to stiff the waiter/waitress
    otherwise, it's just being cheap
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    c'mon people
    if you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal
    if you serve yourself then there is no one to tip
    if the server is crappy, then that may be justification to stiff the waiter/waitress
    otherwise, it's just being cheap

    Exactly. People who are "offended" by tipping should either stay home or limit themselves to over the counter restaurants. When you go to a full service restaurant, tipping is a standard practice and in most every instance is required. You are getting a service....why would you expect to get it for free?
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal
    I was in a gas station once - here in Dallas (Spring Valley & 75) that had a jar that said "Tips".
    It had money in it!

    Were you in that situation, would you tip?

    Do you tip for gas service? I think I read that some states up north still have full service by law.
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Wow, that would be crazy.
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Exactly. People who are "offended" by tipping should either stay home or limit themselves to over the counter restaurants. When you go to a full service restaurant, tipping is a standard practice and in most every instance is required. You are getting a service....why would you expect to get it for free?
    That is kind of the point in the OP. Sonic is not a full service place. It is fast food. The only thing they do is bring it to you.
    That is there model and design of store - is that a "service" or part of their regular job?
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I was in a gas station once - here in Dallas (Spring Valley & 75) that had a jar that said "Tips".
    It had money in it!

    Were you in that situation, would you tip?

    Do you tip for gas service? I think I read that some states up north still have full service by law.
    nope. i use self service. just like i would not tip the order taker at burger king, because i was getting my own order

    but before the first oil embargo i worked at a full service station on an interstate. northerners were usually the ones who attempted to tip me for checking their oil, tire pressure, and cleaning their windshield ... my assumption was that was not the type of unsolicited service they got back home

    maybe they could afford the tip. gas was about 27 cents per gallon
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    That is kind of the point in the OP. Sonic is not a full service place. It is fast food. The only thing they do is bring it to you.
    That is there model and design of store - is that a "service" or part of their regular job?
    I generally follow "Miss manners" guidelines. Fast food....no....Full service yes.
    Seriously, once in Hawaii, there was a tip jar at the cashier of a small grocery store. THAT is beyond ridiculous.

    The Sonics I have been to are sorta in between. If it is a fast food walk up counter ---- no. But if it is a bell-hop serve you food at the car and then pick up the tray etc.....I would tip 10-15%....sorta like a Sizzler. You order at the counter, but there is some service involved, just not to the level of a full service restaurant.

    However...again....as a waiter, I would NEVER presume to get a tip and verbalizing the expectation is wrong.
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    c'mon people
    if you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal
    if you serve yourself then there is no one to tip
    if the server is crappy, then that may be justification to stiff the waiter/waitress
    otherwise, it's just being cheap
    I don't think anyone here has stated that they could not afford to tip, or go into a restaurant where it would be expected with the intention of not tipping.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    When you go to a full service restaurant, tipping is a standard practice and in most every instance is required. You are getting a service....why would you expect to get it for free?
    I wouldn't say its "required," expected is far more accurate. The tip is not the payment for the service, its OPTIONAL and was originally intended as a reward for good work. No one expects to get a meal for free, but an unpleasant, incompetant and/or lazy person shouldn't be rewarded for their failures.

    I almost always tip, and a waiter has to work pretty hard to not get one, but its certainly possible. I think the presumption that its required is as bad as verbalizing the expectation, "delivery fees" or mandatory gratuity on small bills.

    EDIT: IMO a tip should be expected for full service, if its "required" then it isn't a "tip." That being said:
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post

    The tip is not the payment for the service, its OPTIONAL and was originally intended as a reward for good work. No one expects to pay for a meal for free, but an unpleasant, incompetant and/or lazy person shouldn't be rewarded for their failures.

    Absolutely, the tip is the payment for service. It is also Absolutely optional, however, our system is based on the "good manners" expectation that people will tip if they receive good service, so in that sense, although "optional", miss manners would say it is sort of a requirement if you patronize a full service restaurant.

    I do agree that laziness and incompetence should not be rewarded. I don't know of many waiters who expect to be rewarded for poor service. Having worked in a dozen restaurants over a couple decades of my life, it is my experience that most food servers really do try to give you good service. There were times when I got "slammed" and couldn't give good service...THAT is going to happen to anyone who works in the food service industry, but I can tell you on those occassions, I didn't "expect" to get a good tip and often felt shamed when people gave me a good tip when I knew the service I provided them was sub-par (maybe they sensed my stress level or saw that I was trying, albeit failing, to give them good service).

    I don't think we are completely different in our views. I don't think it rewards anyone to pay for or expect a tip for bad service. However, when you fail to tip "out of principal" or you tip little because you are cheap, you are essentially doing the same thing by not rewarding good service.
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    Re: Sonic - do you tip?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    However, when you fail to tip "out of principal" or you tip little because you are cheap, you are essentially doing the same thing by not rewarding good service.
    I couldn't imagine any "principle" one could use to justify not tipping for good service, except for Steve Buschemi above who opposes the entire notion... which is just... hilarious.
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