View Poll Results: From these options, who or what do you care most about?

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  • Myself

    13 25.49%
  • My family and friends

    23 45.10%
  • Myself and the people who share the same values as me

    1 1.96%
  • My religion and its followers

    1 1.96%
  • My city as a whole

    0 0%
  • My state as a whole

    0 0%
  • My country as a whole

    1 1.96%
  • My country and our allies

    0 0%
  • The human race as a whole

    6 11.76%
  • The planet / ecosystem as a whole

    6 11.76%
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You consider yourself a liberal? I'd put you closer to libertarian, IMO.
    My personal philosophy is a mix of personal responsibility and moral relativism both based on situational context and human psychology. It doesn't really fit libertarianism... from what I see it is far too flexible, but it also doesn't fit liberalism... far too inflexible. This is one of the biggest reasons I have never posted an "About Us" thread. Describing where I stand and how on issues is pretty impossible to identify in a brief statement.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your comments in post #49 are classic therapeutic intervention. I've said things similar to clients just TODAY.

    You may have missed your calling and you are probably right. One reason when we agree we do so, so completely is probably because of the psychological and impartial way we communicate.
    Very unprofessional.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    If you do not wish to be compaired to him? Do not come talking about this crap he has been talking for YEARS. He says every single thing people do has a "pay off" in some way to them. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Humans do things because they get some sort of pay off from it.

    Again: I do not mean to offend you or anything as I have a lot of respect for you. So please do not get mad at me or anything
    I'm not getting mad... I just can't stand Dr. Phil. I haven't watched him in years because he gives what I do a bad name. Makes it all seem slick and easy when it is anything but. But if that's what he says, then he is right... and stole my theory. Every thing humans do gets them some sort of payoff. This is not a problem, it's just a reality. The problem is how each of us interpret this reality. To me, this is a good thing. I like to feel good about myself, and I know that the things that I do to make myself feel good ALSO make others feel good and benefit them... often more than they benefit me. It seems to me that your perception is that being self-focused in many ways is a bad thing. That is how you are interpreting placing yourself first. The problem isn't whether you place yourself first... you do. The problem is that you don't feel good about doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Ability to listen and remain impartial, non-judgemental, and see things from all sides?? I do not get that from you here. Maybe you should start being more like that on the interwebz. Just saying
    Fair enough, hon.

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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Very unprofessional.
    Are you kidding? It can be the cornerstone of assertiveness and self-esteem building. Also, it helps one to recognize when they are being treated poorly in a relationship and how NOT to let that happen. NOT helping a client with these things would be unprofessional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Are you kidding? It can be the cornerstone of assertiveness and self-esteem building. Also, it helps one to recognize when they are being treated poorly in a relationship and how NOT to let that happen. NOT helping a client with these things would be unprofessional.
    I have a feeling the "very unprofessional" comment was in reference to you posting about what you were "just discussing with clients today"; perhaps Kali is under the misapprehension that you're violating patient confidentiality ethics or something.
    Ridiculous, of course; but then, one must consider the source.

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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I have a feeling the "very unprofessional" comment was in reference to you posting about what you were "just discussing with clients today"; perhaps Kali is under the misapprehension that you're violating patient confidentiality ethics or something.
    Ridiculous, of course; but then, one must consider the source.
    Oh. That makes sense. Yeah, I broke no confidentiality issues. I didn't identify the client or the context. I only identified the essence of what I said. No identifying characteristics at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Also in reguards to another post? I find it sad creepy that anybody would pick to die for their religion and it's followers over themseleves. Can we say sheep and cultfollower? Yikes
    So if you would die for your parents, for instance, would you be a sheep or cult follower too?


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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Transaction Theory states that the concept of pure altruism does not exist, at least not in the sense that people will often use it. There is no such thing as a selfless act. Every action that we make is a "transaction". If, for example, I do something for you, I get something out of doing that thing... perhaps a feeling of self-worth, or a good feeling of helping another. This feeling is the "payoff" and may be obtained unconsciously or without the conscious motivation towards obtaining it.. Even choosing to die for someone is not a selfless act. In this case, the transaction would precede the behavior... the good feeling of sacrificing for another. Therefore, it is not possible to put anyone but yourself first. This does not denote selfishness, however, and as can be seen with Transaction Theory, obtaining ones "payoff" often benefits others, sometimes more qualitatively or quantitatively than oneself. Even in those situations, though, the behavior starts with the self.
    There was a great episode of friends that taught me a dumbed down version of this when I was a kid.

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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I have a feeling the "very unprofessional" comment was in reference to you posting about what you were "just discussing with clients today"; perhaps Kali is under the misapprehension that you're violating patient confidentiality ethics or something.
    Ridiculous, of course; but then, one must consider the source.
    That was kinda what I was thinking. I wonder all the time what my shrink says about me to others

    Even if they do not use my name or anything? I do not want em talking about me to people or posting about me on the webs. lol
    Last edited by Kali; 06-27-10 at 11:40 PM.
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