View Poll Results: From these options, who or what do you care most about?

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  • Myself

    13 25.49%
  • My family and friends

    23 45.10%
  • Myself and the people who share the same values as me

    1 1.96%
  • My religion and its followers

    1 1.96%
  • My city as a whole

    0 0%
  • My state as a whole

    0 0%
  • My country as a whole

    1 1.96%
  • My country and our allies

    0 0%
  • The human race as a whole

    6 11.76%
  • The planet / ecosystem as a whole

    6 11.76%
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    I care the MOST about my family. Hands down. Friends next, country next....not too concerned about our "ecosystem". *eyeroll*


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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Never read her. I chose "myself" because it's the person I have to spend the most time caring about - I think that that holds true for everyone.

    Saying you care more for friends and family is a bit cliche. While most of us would be (or say we would be) willing to give our lives for our family, that's not really the relevant benchmark. It's about whether you put your family/friends before yourself in each little day-to-day activity. I doubt that many people can say that with a straight face.
    I put certain members of my family before myself every single day. Sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice....


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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    My kids, my dad, my husband. In that order.
    Next, everybody else in the world, including animals, and the earth itself.
    I don't care about myself. I leave that to other people.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yes, I would lay down my life for my friends or family, but that's still for myself because it's what I *want* to do, and I would feel too guilty if I did not.
    So in other words you are very selfish? It seems to be all about You.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    1. My religion and it's followers.
    2. Myself and Family&friends are pretty much tied. By caring for myself I also care for those I love, because if I didn't do that I wouldn't be able to care for others effectively.
    3. The human race as a whole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So in other words you are very selfish? It seems to be all about You.
    I don't want to speak for Rivrrat, but I think what she is saying is that because she cares about others she would die for them. Because shewants to die for them because she wants them to live. There is nothing selfish about that. We have to love ourselves to properly love others. I think what she is saying is that it would be herself wanting to die for others because she wants to do so. If anything I would say wanting to die for another and loving someone that much is the most selfless thing anyone can do. Again, I can't speak for Rivrrat, but that's just my two cents on things. I'm mainly bothered by the fact that you find it selfish to die for someone because that's what you want to do. Essentially, things are all about us. We do what we want, and there is nothing selfish about wanting or being willing to die for one that you love.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    The people who chose "myself" ..... are you Ayn Rand fans by any chance?
    Or Anton LaVey fans? When I was going through my Modern Satanist phase? I woulda picked Self first. lol.



    Also in reguards to another post? I find it sad creepy that anybody would pick to die for their religion and it's followers over themseleves. Can we say sheep and cultfollower? Yikes
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So in other words you are very selfish? It seems to be all about You.
    There is nothing that we do that doesn't benefit ourselves in some way. I am no more selfish than every other person in the world.


    EDIT: Secondly, if I didn't care about myself first and foremost, I would cease to exist. Every time you eat or drink it's because you value yourself. If I put everyone else before me, I would die. And the only way that would benefit me is if my death benefited my loved ones.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    There is nothing that we do that doesn't benefit ourselves in some way. I am no more selfish than every other person in the world.


    EDIT: Secondly, if I didn't care about myself first and foremost, I would cease to exist. Every time you eat or drink it's because you value yourself. If I put everyone else before me, I would die. And the only way that would benefit me is if my death benefited my loved ones.
    Your position is completely inline with my own "Transaction Theory", which, logically proves that everything we do benefits ourselves, therefore we always put ourselves first.

    This is another one of those rare times that you and I are of the same mindset.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    1. Myself
    2. My family and friends
    3. My country/My religion/People who share my values (tie)

    The three way tie at third is kinda fluid. My priorities would shift depending on the circumstances and in the case of religion, how broadly or narrowly we define it.
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    Re: Who or what do you care most about?

    Transaction Theory states that the concept of pure altruism does not exist, at least not in the sense that people will often use it. There is no such thing as a selfless act. Every action that we make is a "transaction". If, for example, I do something for you, I get something out of doing that thing... perhaps a feeling of self-worth, or a good feeling of helping another. This feeling is the "payoff" and may be obtained unconsciously or without the conscious motivation towards obtaining it.. Even choosing to die for someone is not a selfless act. In this case, the transaction would precede the behavior... the good feeling of sacrificing for another. Therefore, it is not possible to put anyone but yourself first. This does not denote selfishness, however, and as can be seen with Transaction Theory, obtaining ones "payoff" often benefits others, sometimes more qualitatively or quantitatively than oneself. Even in those situations, though, the behavior starts with the self.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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