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    Re: Hey Conservatives...Could Obama win your vote for 2012 if he...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    After reading complaints from the Republicans on this board for over a year now the thought occurred to me...

    If Pres. Obama shared more Conservative values would any Republican member here vote for him?

    Example: If he supported gun rights?

    If not, what issue would he have to embrace in order to get your vote?
    Simple straight answer? No. Granted I'm not a Republican but he still wouldn't have my vote.

    Simple reason being that he has imo screwed up too much and has already shown by past voting and actions that he is not fit to be President. Any change on his part towards my view of things would make me think that he is just trying to earn more votes. I have no doubt what so ever that if he is re-elected he will be just like Bush in Bush's last term...not giving a crap what the people of these United States actually want.....not that BO really cares now....but it would be even less than what he shows now.
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    Re: Hey Conservatives...Could Obama win your vote for 2012 if he...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What you're asking for is a hypothethical with little practical sense. I say that because the level of which he'd need to alter his views to be able to get me to be able to support voting for him in 2012 would be SIGNIFICANTLY raised due to his actions over the past 18 months.

    If you had asked this question 36 months ago it would've been simpler. Give me a candidate on the Republican side I'm not hot on, with a legitimate reason to believe Obama is going to attempt to be relatively moderate on most issues, not push any extremely strong liberal agendas, and legitimately work towards REAL bipartisanship where both sides ideas are attempted to be equally represented allowing new ideas fo flourish. I would say that could've gotten my vote for Obama in such a situation, as he's a likable and charismatic figure whose election I could have seen doing good things for the country while his policies were of such that were either verging from bareable to agreeable.

    However, asking it of me now, there's little he can really realistically do. At this point he's moved so far to the left on certain issues, has done actions that have so angered and turned me off, that simply a shift to moderate would not actually do anything for me. Cap and Trade, the buying out of industries, the health care plan, the method in which TARP is being executed, his conflicting foreign policy with his foriegn presentation, his lies about being a change to politics as usual, his misrepresentation of post partisanship, his continued and pendemic desire to pass the buck, etc. At this point, due to no actions other than his own, it would take a complete and utter 180 for him to get near my vote.
    Well said... for me that 180 would have to have a track record about 10 years long.
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    Re: Hey Conservatives...Could Obama win your vote for 2012 if he...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    After reading complaints from the Republicans on this board for over a year now the thought occurred to me...

    If Pres. Obama shared more Conservative values would any Republican member here vote for him?

    Example: If he supported gun rights?

    If not, what issue would he have to embrace in order to get your vote?
    So, how many of the 10 that voted yes are really conservatives?
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    Re: Hey Conservatives...Could Obama win your vote for 2012 if he...?

    Quote Originally Posted by jking948 View Post
    Sorry I should have made myself more clear: I mean I could vote for a 3rd party, I feel as if I am throwing my vote away if I do, but if it comes down to that and not voting I will clearly vote for the 3rd party.
    No. I can't trust someone that flip flops. I wish him a long and happy life outside of politics.

    I would have voted for him in '08 IF he was against the bailouts, against the type of health care reform he tried, against the massive spending bills, for gun rights, for on shore and shallow water drilling (where it's safer), against cap and tax, had a spine and some tact when dealing with foreing leaders, was for lower taxes and keeping the Bush tax cuts, and the list goes on.

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    Re: Hey Conservatives...Could Obama win your vote for 2012 if he...?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    He would have to embrace most of the issues I support. The only exception would be if he secured the border, enacted various laws to help local law enforcement crack down on illegal immigration, banned tax payer funded services to illegals, punished politicians on the local state and federal level who aided illegals,repealed part of the immigration and nationality act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children, made it illegal for any politician to aid illegals in any way(amnesty,IDs for illegals, tax payer funded services and ect)and got rid of the huge vast majority or illegals then I would vote for Obama.
    Let me know when you find anyone short of a Nazi who will actually try that.

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    Re: Hey Conservatives...Could Obama win your vote for 2012 if he...?

    At this point I would be willing to vote for an inanimate object like a tree stump with an "R" next to it's name than to reelect Obama.
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