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  • It is extremely important to the exclusion of other methods

    2 10.53%
  • It is very valuable and more important than other methods

    8 42.11%
  • It is no more valuable than other methods of data synthesis (such as science)

    5 26.32%
  • It is less valuable than other methods

    3 15.79%
  • It is of little to no value

    1 5.26%
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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Looks like you failed again, Meg.

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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Looks like you failed again, Meg.
    1. I wasn't trying to prove anything or accomplish anything, but rather see what others think. Without that sort of intent than there is no failure, especially since someone responded to my question with their own view. That would mean I accomplished my purpose.
    2. As of the votes right now, if averaged, than common sense is viewed as slightly less relevant than other forms of information, which, if there was a competition (and based on my statement in the OP) would indicate a slight preference against the value of common sense. But as I stated this is not a competition
    3. I find it odd that you think it is some sort of competition.
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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Personally, I don't really know how to define "common sense", or if such is even possible.

    I think it may be slightly different for each person.

    I would probably define it as the method you use to draw a conclusion based on the knowledge, facts, and so forth, that you have at hand.

    But I dunno.
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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I don't really know how to define "common sense", or if such is even possible.

    I think it may be slightly different for each person.

    I would probably define it as the method you use to draw a conclusion based on the knowledge, facts, and so forth, that you have at hand.

    But I dunno.
    Well according to wikipedia

    Common sense (or, when used attributively as an adjective, commonsense, common-sense, or commonsensical), based on a strict construction of the term, consists of what people in common would agree on[citation needed] : that which they "sense" as their common natural understanding. [citation needed] Some people (such as the authors of Merriam-Webster Online) use the phrase to refer to beliefs or propositions that — in their opinion — most people would consider prudent and of sound judgment, without reliance on esoteric knowledge or study or research, but based upon what they see as knowledge held by people "in common". Thus "common sense" (in this view) equates to the knowledge and experience which most people already have, or which the person using the term believes that they do or should have. However this is not the common dictionary definition. The most common meaning to the phrase is good sense and sound judgement in practical matters.[citation needed] It has nothing to do with what other people may think or feel.
    Which seems like a pretty good definition.

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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    1. I wasn't trying to prove anything or accomplish anything, but rather see what others think. Without that sort of intent than there is no failure, especially since someone responded to my question with their own view. That would mean I accomplished my purpose.
    2. As of the votes right now, if averaged, than common sense is viewed as slightly less relevant than other forms of information, which, if there was a competition (and based on my statement in the OP) would indicate a slight preference against the value of common sense. But as I stated this is not a competition
    3. I find it odd that you think it is some sort of competition.
    This was obviously in response to my earlier comment about common sense prevailing, and you messed up the poll. Its not a competition.

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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    This was obviously in response to my earlier comment about common sense prevailing, and you messed up the poll. Its not a competition.
    It made me think of it, but it was not directed at you, but it did pique my curiosity.

    I disagree that I messed up the poll, in your post, you felt that common sense was very important, there are two options for you to choose from if you have that sentiment.

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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    It made me think of it, but it was not directed at you, but it did pique my curiosity.

    I disagree that I messed up the poll, in your post, you felt that common sense was very important, there are two options for you to choose from if you have that sentiment.
    Well again, Meg, it depends on what you are arguing about, pure science or something less quantifiable like human behavior. Common sense is important in either, just in different ways. Most of the comments here say something similar, and your poll doesn't take that into account.

    You messed up.

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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Well again, Meg, it depends on what you are arguing about, pure science or something less quantifiable like human behavior. Common sense is important in either, just in different ways. Most of the comments here say something similar, and your poll doesn't take that into account.

    You messed up.
    3 out of 8 posters held that sentiment. That is not most. Anyway, feel free to continue trolling and derailing the thread. My hope is that more sensible people will post and there will be an actual discussion.

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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    I voted for the "It is very valuable and more important than other methods" option, because it most closely fits my understanding of the situation.

    However, it's more nuanced than that.

    In my understanding, people use "common sense" as a key component of any method or combination of methods used to find an answer.

    But perhaps I'm applying the term "common sense" to something entirely different.

    Meh.
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    Re: How valuable is common sense

    in my opinion common sense is not very common
    those who possess it are very easy to identify
    in the military 'squared away' seemed to be a common description of those with uncommon common sense
    i am not sure someone can truly be successful without it

    i assist refugees who possess substantial common sense
    they are tribal hunter gatherers who also engage in basic farming
    but because they seldom attended school beyond fifth grade their limited skill set severely restricts their employability
    for example, if they have to do carpentry, they are unable to use fractions. that is a concept which is beyond them. but tell them to space the board the space of their hands and they are very adept
    again, lots of common sense, very little education. maybe it is their common sense that has allowed them to be so self sufficeint in the jungle, and less so in an American urban environment

    one of the critical components of common sense appears to be situational awareness. and that appears to be on the wane. a sport like baseball teaches it. to play baseball (or fastpitch) on defense, the player must always know IN ADVANCE what to do if the ball is hit their way. and that skill seems to become ingrained into other aspects of the way the players conduct themselves off the field. only weak basball players lack good situational awareness. but like that trait, baseball is also on the wane ... there is a correlation
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