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Thread: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think you fail to realize that when most people say "the president should do something" we're not suggesting he put on some gear and go diving - work some magic and tadaaa! Fix it! We're saying he should use his political state, position and power as well as purse strings to persuade those responsible to take it seriously, put it on top of their 'to do' list and tackle the issue that they caused in the best way possible. As well as to enforce the laws that are in place and to hold people at fault accountable as well as spark investigation and be a leader in public-awareness.

    I think he's handling the BP situation pretty well right now - it could have happened sooner but better late than never.
    With reference to the underlined.
    It should have happened sooner, much sooner, whether it was because States bordering the Gulf had Republican Governors that are not friendly to the WH or not I do not know, but only when his inactivity ttarted to kick him and his administration politically, did he begin to do something. But as you say 'Better late than never".
    What US Presidents seem to fail to realise is that they are President to all the US not just those that voted them into power.

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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Do I expect a lawyer with absolutely no technical training to handle an extremely technical engineering problem that many seasoned oil engineers can't fix?

    Let me think about that. Oh wait. No, I don't expect him to. Let's put a school teacher in charge of engineering specialized equipment for NASA! Yeah, that's a good idea. How about an accountant in charge of genetic recombination programs?

    Seriously. You people crack me up. This is like expecting Bush to be able to solve a problem on the International Space Station. LOL.



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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    do you expect him to run a war?
    Oh snap

    Well - that one doesn't matter, you don't have to know anything about war to run one these days. narknarknark
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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    do you expect him to run a war?
    I expect him to follow the advice of those experts he appoints to run the war.

    If he fails to follow their advice then he can hardly blame those he appoints if their efforts fail.

    Similarly I expect him to follow the advice of those he appoints to follow up matters with regard to the Oil spill.

    I do not expect him to don diving gear and descend to the spill point and seal it, I may well hope, but expect? No.

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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Just one subjective opinion. Obama has never had to manage anything in his entire life before assuming the presidency. A business, a war, a national disaster, etc.

    And he is less than overwhelming on what he has shown us to this point.....



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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think you fail to realize that when most people say "the president should do something" we're not suggesting he put on some gear and go diving - work some magic and tadaaa!
    The various posts here suggest otherwise.

    Fix it! We're saying he should use his political state, position and power as well as purse strings to persuade those responsible to take it seriously, put it on top of their 'to do' list and tackle the issue that they caused in the best way possible.
    What makes you think BP is just sitting there play on their iPhones?

    As well as to enforce the laws that are in place and to hold people at fault accountable as well as spark investigation and be a leader in public-awareness.
    So we need more government to ensure that firms actually have real materials and people behind their emergency plans? Is that what you're telling me? (I don't think Rev had that in mind when he thanked your post) And Obama did get them to commit to a $20 billion fund.
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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    do you expect him to run a war?
    Nope. I expect him to get the hell out of the way and let the Generals do that. We had to wait 4 years before Bush learned that lesson in Iraq.
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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The various posts here suggest otherwise.

    What makes you think BP is just sitting there play on their iPhones?

    So we need more government to ensure that firms actually have real materials and people behind their emergency plans? Is that what you're telling me? (I don't think Rev had that in mind when he thanked your post) And Obama did get them to commit to a $20 billion fund.
    If the government and BP and everyone else involved in this mess had stuck to their end of the deal it's likely this mess wouldn't have happened. As the investigation into the entire business' septics are discovering: nothing was ever done like it was suppose to.

    Government has set some standards, put in place rules and guidelines, and they're insufficient at best - and none were followed or enforced.
    BP also has it's own guidelines, insufficient at best, and they were also not followed or enforced properly.
    Haliburton . . . everyone else . . .

    Yep - when inspection time came and they just penciled in their forms - they were jacking off, if not playing on their Iphones.

    What's Shell doing through all of this?
    They're responsible for a much bigger and longer-lasting and far more detrimental disaster in Nigeria . . . which has had no intervention or focus at ALL - because, likely, they're jacking off and playing on their Iphones, too.

    If not jacking off and playing around - they're certainly rolling in the money pile like Uncle Scrooge.
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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    washingtonpost.com


    Do you agree the Oil spill is now over, time to move on to other issues and focus on other things?
    NO
    This is far from resolved
    Heads must roll, none have yet.
    What energy reform?
    And have attitudes improved, this may take generations ??
    And the Coast Guard supposedly throwing a wrench in the works over some silly regulation...
    And BP lying about the oil loss quantity, if they really did, of course.
    The media is in need of reform, badly....

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    Re: Turning the corner on the Gulf oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Nope. I expect him to get the hell out of the way and let the Generals do that. We had to wait 4 years before Bush learned that lesson in Iraq.


    So you are suggesting Bush was drawing up battle plans?


    please by all means, link so we may review.



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