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Is this criticism on how Obama is handling the oil spill legitimate?

Is this criticism on how Obama is handling the oil spill legitimate?

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obvious Child said:
And you got that from my post how?

What I'm saying is that to expect someone with no knowledge of an extremely difficult and technical problem at hand to be able to solve is is pretty insane. Did you expect Bush to be capable of fixing a problem on the International Space Station given his background and education?
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President Bush has a Bachelors from Yale and an MBA from Harvard...what's wrong with his education? What is it the President is responsible for?
 
obvious Child said:
Apparently some people think a lawyer can take charge of a highly technical engineering problem.

Join me as I laugh at them.
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Yeah - so highly technical that even BP's specialists who started the problem can't fix it. . . that's like a plumber busting a pipe and then being unable to stop the leak, that's how stupid this whole situation is. . . all because of a gross lack of goverment and business involvement and incompetence from the getgo.

But to be fair to Obama he's also been a teacher and a Senator. You've pointed out several times in recent posts that he was a lawyer - back in the 1990's - so, considering the progression of his employment record since then, he's no longer considered 'a lawyer' - much in the same way he's no longer a 'teacher' or a 'community organizer' or even 'a senator'

Why you're focusing so much on his Lawyer past elludes me - because right now he is *the president* :shrug:
 
obvious Child said:
And that somehow means Obama can somehow magically fix the problem that originated before his time in office?
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It means that while Obama was trying to gut the Coast Guards readiness to handle a spill, or getting ready to give the horizon deepwater a safety award, or expanding off shore drilling, he might have noticed an issue with things.


but your strawman works, I think the LA times called him the "magic negro". :shrug:



Did I expect Bush to be able to fix a problem on the ISS? No. Do I expect Obama to be able to plug the well? No. But hell, why use logic?
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I don't know. Perhaps you should try logic, the strawmen you are building seem to lack it.


Sure the buck stops on his desk. But that doesn't mean he actually do anything about it now any more then Hayward can.
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What does this even mean? I'm sorry, if you are going to build silly strawmen, at least have the initiative to explain what position you are giving me. :lamo
 
obvious Child said:
And you got that from my post how?

What I'm saying is that to expect someone with no knowledge of an extremely difficult and technical problem at hand to be able to solve is is pretty insane. Did you expect Bush to be capable of fixing a problem on the International Space Station given his background and education?
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Can you link to one person claiming that Obama should 1st hand don a hard hat and get down there with a giant monkey wrench or is this simply another strawman?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Can you link to one person claiming that Obama should 1st hand don a hard hat and get down there with a giant monkey wrench or is this simply another strawman?
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Aunt Spiker said:
Yeah - so highly technical that even BP's specialists who started the problem can't fix it. . . that's like a plumber busting a pipe and then being unable to stop the leak, that's how stupid this whole situation is. . . all because of a gross lack of goverment and business involvement and incompetence from the getgo.

But to be fair to Obama he's also been a teacher and a Senator. You've pointed out several times in recent posts that he was a lawyer - back in the 1990's - so, considering the progression of his employment record since then, he's no longer considered 'a lawyer' - much in the same way he's no longer a 'teacher' or a 'community organizer' or even 'a senator'

Why you're focusing so much on his Lawyer past elludes me - because right now he is *the president* :shrug:
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Because his principle education and time spent was in the field of law. It is rational expect someone trained in law to be able to do what actual oil engineers can't? Note, some people here think so.

I likened this to Bush fixing the ISS. Is that irrational? Of course. But rationality is not a common trait here.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
It means that while Obama was trying to gut the Coast Guards readiness to handle a spill, or getting ready to give the horizon deepwater a safety award, or expanding off shore drilling, he might have noticed an issue with things.
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And you have evidence?

I don't know. Perhaps you should try logic, the strawmen you are building seem to lack it.
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Because you say so? Oh wait. That's your standard line. Do you really think he can do more then Hayward who has a literal army of oil engineers at his command?

What does this even mean? I'm sorry, if you are going to build silly strawmen, at least have the initiative to explain what position you are giving me. :lamo
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For someone so interested in the spill, you seem very uninformed as to who the players are.
 
obvious Child said:
Because his principle education and time spent was in the field of law. It is rational expect someone trained in law to be able to do what actual oil engineers can't? Note, some people here think so.

I likened this to Bush fixing the ISS. Is that irrational? Of course. But rationality is not a common trait here.
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So, by that rationale, President Obama can be blamed for nothing his administration does or does not do, correct?
 
No, I think the criticism is unjust and doesn't do a damn bit of good to plug the hole. Let's plug the hole and then determine whose ass we need to kick. Could O'bama have brought in foreign help and got things moving quicker. Probably so, but I think any administration would have difficulty handling something like this.

I'm curious about the 20 billion. Why 20 and why not 100. What is so significant about that number?
 
obvious Child said:
And you have evidence?
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I guess you missed my thread on it, Don't worry, so did most of the more left wing friends of ours. :thumbs:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...st-guard-personnel-harm-readiness-crises.html


Because you say so? Oh wait. That's your standard line. Do you really think he can do more then Hayward who has a literal army of oil engineers at his command?
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Still whooping that strawman around I see. :shrug:



For someone so interested in the spill, you seem very uninformed as to who the players are.
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And then you go into making it up and outright lying in support of your dumb strawman. kudos to you. :thumbs:
 
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