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Thread: Should we trim down our Military????

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    Should we trim down our Military????

    I've included several options..I think we can easily trim the armed forces in half and still be "safe". Our only threats are at least an ocean away and are not necessarily prominent or technologically advanced.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    I'm not sure what you mean by substantial. Could we severely cut down our nuclear arsenal and required staff? Absolutely. Could we further the reduction in the Air Force? Absolutely. Ambiguous comments applied to the whole military are not really helpful. Certain parts need to increase and some to decrease. But the military as a whole is too large of a beast to tackle with broad strokes.
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    When your military spending is more than that of the next ten countries, and you are broke, then broad strokes are necessary. Tinkering around the edges isn't going to cut it. (did you see what I did then?)
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    When your military spending is more than that of the next ten countries, and you are broke, then broad strokes are necessary. Tinkering around the edges isn't going to cut it. (did you see what I did then?)
    I don't see how deep reductions to our nuclear arsenal are "tinkering around the edges." Furthermore, cutting staff from one of the branches in large numbers isn't really on the edges. Edges would be kind of like not buying that additional missile frigate, or buying 20 less tanks.
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    you hear politicians speak of ways to cut cost but I don't see cutting the military thrown around a lot, maybe it is and I just don't know it because I don't watch the news. I think its obvious we overspend in the defense department. We have sent a couple trillion dollars down the tube on a completely phony and pointless war. It seems as if the U.S. always needs to be at war with something.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    WE can cut some spending from the military, but reducing the force size while we are involved in as much as we are, with other potential hotspots(Iran, NK, etc) is a bad idea.
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    WE can cut some spending from the military, but reducing the force size while we are involved in as much as we are, with other potential hotspots(Iran, NK, etc) is a bad idea.
    Yet there are probably excesses and waste that can be trimmed - it may be minor relative to other areas of cuts, but they should be explored and identified. Given our current economic state, I would agree with you that force size and even some R&D manufacture should be deemed necessary and overall should not be cut. Until the world becomes a safer place, I cannot see a day we could close most of the foreign bases and take a more geocentric defensive stance. We need the rest of the world to step up to the responsibility of holding other country's accountable and responsible and that hasn't happened since WWII.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yet there are probably excesses and waste that can be trimmed - it may be minor relative to other areas of cuts, but they should be explored and identified. Given our current economic state, I would agree with you that force size and even some R&D manufacture should be deemed necessary and overall should not be cut. Until the world becomes a safer place, I cannot see a day we could close most of the foreign bases and take a more geocentric defensive stance. We need the rest of the world to step up to the responsibility of holding other country's accountable and responsible and that hasn't happened since WWII.
    The Department of Defense, whose necessity is quite obvious, is sadly one of our most inefficient and wasteful departments. Gates is making efforts to elminate programs that are dated and to stop Congress from ordering weapons we don't need simply to bring jobs back to their districts.

    This is a good first step. Accounting for the lost Billions that have gone unaccounted for in Iraq and Afghanistan would be another.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    No vote.
    Is there anyone here with the knowledge to make an intelligent selection?
    Its a changing world, this is news to some, who are still in the previous centuries.
    The question is, or should be, should we help these middle east "nations"??
    I do not recall any nation asking for our help, recently.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    you hear politicians speak of ways to cut cost but I don't see cutting the military thrown around a lot, maybe it is and I just don't know it because I don't watch the news. I think its obvious we overspend in the defense department. We have sent a couple trillion dollars down the tube on a completely phony and pointless war. It seems as if the U.S. always needs to be at war with something.
    You do realize that two thirds of the Defense budget is eaten up by healthcare, right? Our military is currently undermanned for the requirements it's under and due to this the amount of time any individual service member is deployed away from home has increased 200-300% since 9/11. The average deployment has changed from 6 months to a year, and now service members on the "home cycle" are often deployed individually from their own units to augment deployed units? But, you know that right? Compensation such has reenlistment bonus have been cut drastically across the board and this year we received the lowest cost of living increase ever. You already knew that, right?

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