View Poll Results: Should we decrease the size of the U.S. armed forces

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  • Yes, but only a small amount

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  • We should increase the size of our armed forces.

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Thread: Should we trim down our Military????

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Well I'm not American so I don't have that much knowledge about your military, but this I think is a clear signal that USA could spend less on the military.

    Top 10 countries military spending.

    USA 663 billion dollar

    Total Allies: UK, France, Germany, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Italy 309 billion dollar

    Total Potential enemies (not official enemies yet on the list) Russia, China 161 billion dollar

    And India that can be said to be "neutral" 37 billion dollar

    The list also goes on with a lot of allied countries to USA. But if you only look at the top 10 list, you can see that even in worst case scenario (China and Russia as allied enemies towards USA, and USA loosing some of their allies for example France and Saudi Arabia) the military spending of USA allieds alone would be bigger then the spending of USA enemies. Not then even counting USA own enormous military spending.

    List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    And overall money spent means . . . what exactly?

    It really means nothing - our economy is on a different scale than that of India. What might cost us $5.00 to cover might cost them $2.00 - personnel pay, health coverage, life insurance . . . travel (impossible to be in the military and not travel frequently) and merely the cost of living.

    Also - how much does the average person get paid for being in the service in, say, Saudi Arabia - how is that $ in comparison to the average US soldier?

    There are so many money issues it's hard to calculate it up on a balanced scale - you have to consider all these other factors and more.

    If Saudi Arabia had our continent - and their economy - what would the difference be? . . There's all sorts of fun ways to try to play with the numbers but nothing is accurate. It is what it is and it's very complicated to compare merely on "overall amount spent"
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Yes of course things are more complex and you can of course not look only at military spending. That rich countries like USA have of course both advantage as well as disadvantage compared to for example China. Advantage can be that USA are a democracy and thereby don't need to use the military to controle the own population and also gets more motivated soldiers. But also USA may also have advantage with a more educated population and more advanced level of acamedics and scientists that will help military reserach. But of course their can also be disadvantages for USA. But still the diffrences in numbers are so huge that USA should probably be able to spend less and still be safe and have global military influence. Take also for example that USA allieds UK, France, Spain, Italy, South Corea, Canada, Australia, Spain, Turkey, Israel, Greece, UAE, Netherlands, Poland, Colombia and Taiwan individialy spends more then USA first real enemy Iran on the list.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Military spending is something that you just can't know how much is worth it. Did we not get attacked because of spending? Ya just don't know.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Military spending is something that you just can't know how much is worth it. Did we not get attacked because of spending? Ya just don't know.
    I feel comfortabel arguing that a lot of other countries, like Saudi Arabia - which is highly dependent on the US - don't spend enough.
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Our forces do need a downsizing, but more importantly I think they need refinement. We need to be equipped to fight a modern war, which we are not.
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Our forces do need a downsizing, but more importantly I think they need refinement. We need to be equipped to fight a modern war, which we are not.
    A great portion of our military spending goes to modernizing our capabilities.

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    A great portion of our military spending goes to modernizing our capabilities.
    From what I can see, and this is strictly the opinion of an outsider, such modernization is not pushed far or fast enough.
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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    From what I can see, and this is strictly the opinion of an outsider, such modernization is not pushed far or fast enough.
    What do you think could be done to push it farther, faster? Keep in mind that almost every new defense system usually faces an extreme justification process through congress.....

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    Re: Should we trim down our Military????

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What do you think could be done to push it farther, faster? Keep in mind that almost every new defense system usually faces an extreme justification process through congress.....
    High tech defence systems didn't work against fundamentalism and boxcutters.
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