View Poll Results: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the road

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    Re: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the r

    No. All you need to do is withhold future medical treatment unless they pay 100% out of pocket.

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    Re: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the r

    We seem to all want to stop the overspending in health care and re-insert common sense! So here's a bit of information to turn the heat up on this debate: 40% of Medicare dollars go to the elderly during their last month of life.

    40%!!!!

    Could you imagine how much we could save if we found a way to reduce those costs? I'm not suggesting we end payouts or stop taking care of people in their final hours. Afterall, we don't always even know when that will be. So we don't know we're in the last month until it's too late sometimes. But usually it's obvious. So what can I do about this? Well, when I feel the end is near, I am going to insist on going home, without medication and try to be happy. So that I will not participate in this over-expenditure. If I'm going to die anyway, it might as well be economical. If I save my last month's worth of spending, I will be able to fund someone else's life on medicare (from age 65 through 1 month prior to death). If that means I lose a couple of weeks or I'm in extra pain, so be it.

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    Re: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the r

    Absolutely not. Why pay people for being stupid? Whatever you pay for, you get more of.
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    Re: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the r

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    No. All you need to do is withhold future medical treatment unless they pay 100% out of pocket.
    ^^^^^ This.

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    Re: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the r

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    We seem to all want to stop the overspending in health care and re-insert common sense! So here's a bit of information to turn the heat up on this debate: 40% of Medicare dollars go to the elderly during their last month of life.

    40%!!!!
    Link please

    Could you imagine how much we could save if we found a way to reduce those costs? I'm not suggesting we end payouts or stop taking care of people in their final hours. Afterall, we don't always even know when that will be. So we don't know we're in the last month until it's too late sometimes. But usually it's obvious. So what can I do about this? Well, when I feel the end is near, I am going to insist on going home, without medication and try to be happy. So that I will not participate in this over-expenditure. If I'm going to die anyway, it might as well be economical. If I save my last month's worth of spending, I will be able to fund someone else's life on medicare (from age 65 through 1 month prior to death). If that means I lose a couple of weeks or I'm in extra pain, so be it.

    That's just silly. End of life, comfort measures are not costly. If there are higher costs involved I suspect it comes from surgeries or ICU costs. If what you say is true you can probably place the blame on those people who refuse to believe they're ever going to die. The ones who have their health directive state that all life saving measures should be utilized.....the ones who don't sign a DNR. There are also many family members who are placed in charge of the patient. They're making decisions to "save" a loved one and will never sign a DNR or move to comfort care.

    Planning is important as is naming someone who will carry out your wishes.

    End of life....comfort care measures either at home with Hospice or at a hospital are not that costly.




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    Re: Should we pay non-compliant patients to take their medicine (to save $ down the r

    No, for all the reasons mentioned.
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