View Poll Results: Decriminalize Drugs Or Bloody Drug War?

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I agree with you, but the abuse and neglect that led to the child being taken away has nothing to do with the drugs they took. They were irresponsible parents. Period.


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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    See above.

    Would it make a difference? In some ways, sure.
    How much? We don't know.
    What will these cartels do for a living instead? Will they just settle down and become responsible citizens? Doubtful, why would they? They'd just go to something else, for something else. Their main purpose is money - and if they aren't making it as much they'll just get into another ring of business.

    That's my thought, anyway - but because we've never legalized something of this caliper before we don't have a compass on it.
    Of course we do. We prohibited alcohol. Who got control of it? The gangs. What happened when they legalized it? Businesses took over the trade. Some of that may have been from the gangsters and some of it may not have been.

    You're right and I agree with you in that criminals do anything they can to make a buck, especially illegal things. However, the U.S. is one of the largest markets for illegal drugs in the world. Americans want their drugs, despite all the drug laws against them. Which is why I prefer to legalize and regulate them all, tax the hell out of them, and have those taxes go to treatment centers for drug abuse. I think that's better than the incarceration we give drug users now, have it on their record they're a felon, which then makes it impossible for them to get a good job.

    And you're right, criminals will go on to something else. However, we have taken away from them one more thing for them to use to gain revenue, and we'll have included regulated competition into it as well.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    Decriminalize Drugs or Legalize the Bloody Drug WAR for Cartels to Kill and Make Billions of Profits by Selling Amounts of Drugs? Your Choice America

    YouTube - Mexican Drug Cartels Now Control Parts of Arizona [[END THIS WAR]]
    I'm for legalizing drugs. Really I am. But your just trying to push your opinion that if we don't legalize drugs, we're insisting on the continuation of drug wars... or so I assume since those are the two options you provide. If that's your opinion, then that's what should be debated. I generally agree with that opinion and so I won't debate it. But your approach seems passive aggressive. If you want a debate, come on out and say it direct!

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Would it make a difference? In some ways, sure.
    How much? We don't know.
    What will these cartels do for a living instead? Will they just settle down and become responsible citizens? Doubtful, why would they? They'd just go to something else, for something else. Their main purpose is money - and if they aren't making it as much they'll just get into another ring of business.

    That's my thought, anyway - but because we've never legalized something of this caliper before we don't have a compass on it.
    Why don't you compare the yearly profits of RJ Reynolds to those of the average drug cartel? I'm sure RJ Reynolds makes more, so if drugs were legal and regulated, why the hell would cartels choose to keep breaking the law when they could make a much bigger profit acting as a legitimate business?

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Why don't you compare the yearly profits of RJ Reynolds to those of the average drug cartel? I'm sure RJ Reynolds makes more, so if drugs were legal and regulated, why the hell would cartels choose to keep breaking the law when they could make a much bigger profit acting as a legitimate business?
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    Sure, a few might be able to change and go with the flow - start a legitimate business and change . . . . but for boys raised on the streets, killing for a living, you just can't legalize that out of someone.

    I would also question the business pracitices of a former cartel druglord. Would he really have a good solid notion of how to run a decent business in which he has to rightfully employ and care for his employees? Under the watchful eyes of the law Enron still had it's blacklist party.
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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Drug legalization would not prevent kids from getting drugs. When I was a minor I got my hands on cigarettes and booze just as easy as I got my hands on weed. Its just as easy for a minor to get booze and cigarettes as it is pot or some other drug. You got to socialize with people to know how to buy drugs and who to buy drugs off of, so if you can do that then you can do the same thing when it comes to booze and smokes. Because there is always someone who knows someone who has a older cooler brother or sister, parent who who is trying to be hip or a older friend who doesn't mind going to the store as long as you hook him up with some cigs or a beer or two. So the idea that legalizing drugs would prevent minors from getting them is a load of crap and nothing more than a BS stoner talking point. Heck it would probably easier for a minor to get his hands on drugs since drug legalization means that someone would not have to have face charges for illegal possession.
    It is actually easier to get pot than it is to get beer. You don't have to have any covert operation or set up any special contacts.
    Between 2007 and 2009 there was a 37 percent increase in the percentage of teens who say marijuana is easier to buy than cigarettes, beer or prescription drugs
    Teens: Pot Easier To Buy Than Beer
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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    I like war. So I say keep it illegal and declare war on all the organized crime and gangbanger scum that are there. And send the special ops after them with orders to shoot to kill.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    I don't think American's could handle legalization of all drugs. I think abuse is a big enough problem while they're still illegal - it would probably grow with legalization. My biggest issue isn't abuse though; if people are stupid enough to take drugs and abuse drugs, they deserve everything they get up to and including the OD and death. While I can see it's an individual choice - what I resent is societies outrage at drug addicts in the streets and calls for tax money to clean them up. I can site how alcoholics are viewed today. IF all drugs were legalized, I'd only agree to it if only the individuals are responsible for their own clean up, their own mess, their own legal defense (ie. drug user crashes into another car and kills a mother of three). That drug user would then be responsible for a set amount of money for all three of those children until they are of legal age.

    If strong enough controls were put around it - I say legalization of drugs would be a very good way of cleaning the gene pool.
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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't think American's could handle legalization of all drugs. I think abuse is a big enough problem while they're still illegal - it would probably grow with legalization. My biggest issue isn't abuse though; if people are stupid enough to take drugs and abuse drugs, they deserve everything they get up to and including the OD and death. While I can see it's an individual choice - what I resent is societies outrage at drug addicts in the streets and calls for tax money to clean them up. I can site how alcoholics are viewed today. IF all drugs were legalized, I'd only agree to it if only the individuals are responsible for their own clean up, their own mess, their own legal defense (ie. drug user crashes into another car and kills a mother of three). That drug user would then be responsible for a set amount of money for all three of those children until they are of legal age.

    If strong enough controls were put around it - I say legalization of drugs would be a very good way of cleaning the gene pool.
    The war on drugs/people reminds me of what Einstein said about doing the same things over and over and expecting to get different results. It's insanity.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The war on drugs/people reminds me of what Einstein said about doing the same things over and over and expecting to get different results. It's insanity.
    Since when was Einstein a psychologist?

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