View Poll Results: Decriminalize Drugs Or Bloody Drug War?

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Thread: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Why is marijuana classified as a narcotic?

    Narcotic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    A looser usage of the word "narcotic" to refer to any illegal or unlawfully possessed drug including marijuana and herion is common worldwide, although these substances are not considered narcotics in a medical or scientific context.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Drugs are bad, m'kay. I voted bloody drug war.
    This "war", and the others ,are not working, are not effective, and are too costly.
    What we should be doing is learning why our young wish to destroy themselves....if in fact these drugs are that dangerous.
    I do not believe what the men in power tell me.
    But, its common knowledge that the drugs are not good for us, and this I accept. But, if others hate themselves so, let them do it and be done....with it.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Who exactly is going to regulate meth and speedballs?
    Private businesses? I mean, nicotine is among (if not) the most addictive drugs out there, and it's completely legal for adults. For that matter, excessive fast food eating has much worse long term effects on people than most drugs do, and we haven't banned it either. Some people get excessively addicted to video games, gambling, etc etc etc. Why not ban those while we're at it?

    Seriously. what's worse? (Possibly) A few more crackheads screwing up their health, or more kids getting murdered in drive-by drug shootings?

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
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    Since you voted bloody drug war, you also want children to get easy access from illegal drugs in the black market and not wanted it controlled by adults only.
    Drug legalization would not prevent kids from getting drugs. When I was a minor I got my hands on cigarettes and booze just as easy as I got my hands on weed. Its just as easy for a minor to get booze and cigarettes as it is pot or some other drug. You got to socialize with people to know how to buy drugs and who to buy drugs off of, so if you can do that then you can do the same thing when it comes to booze and smokes. Because there is always someone who knows someone who has a older cooler brother or sister, parent who who is trying to be hip or a older friend who doesn't mind going to the store as long as you hook him up with some cigs or a beer or two. So the idea that legalizing drugs would prevent minors from getting them is a load of crap and nothing more than a BS stoner talking point. Heck it would probably easier for a minor to get his hands on drugs since drug legalization means that someone would not have to have face charges for illegal possession.
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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Clarification is always good.
    Indeed! I sounded like a nut for a second, yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Really? Then where are all the cigarette cartels? I can guarantee you that if tobacco was illegalized, they would exist, since tobacco is supposedly as addictive as herion.
    Cigarette cartels? You mean the cigarette companies. Yep - they do exist and are quite ruthless, they're just functioning within the means of the law instead of outside of it.

    There will always be the 'black market' or the 'underground' - even if it's perfectly legal there will always been groups and cartels trying to make more money by underselling. As does often happen with cigarette-rings. . . remember years back when an underground gang was convicted of tax-evasion. They would buy cartons of cigarettes by the hundreds in Texas (I believe) where is was cheaper per carton (cost and taxes) and then drive it to North Carolina where the cigarette-taxes were a lot higher . . . thus spending far less $$ to buy out of state and drive it back to their store - under the radar and around Uncle Sam. . . all for profit.

    So legalizaton won't prevent crime - the criminals will just have a bit more wiggle room or will have a different function. Rather than making money by functioning illegally - they'll make money by skirting the system.

    Kind of off subject, though, but I simply don't support the legalization of drugs that are prfoundly mind-altering. Its level of addition isn't so much the issue, it's how it effects the person. Right now tobacco, caffeine and alcohol are our 3 main legal substances - there are others, sure, but nothing quite so widely used. So - I think that present a social level of tolerance is and can be used as a gauge. So - cocain, meth . . . no. But a bit of pot? Sure, why not. I don't hear of people beating their wives to death because they were high on weed.

    Addiction, wanting to get away or have a mental vacation, is almost human nature - we've been smoking and drinking since the dawn of man. . . but too much of a fun things can be bad. It's not the drugs themselves but how people behave while under the influence that makes it bad.
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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Indeed! I sounded like a nut for a second, yeah



    Cigarette cartels? You mean the cigarette companies. Yep - they do exist and are quite ruthless, they're just functioning within the means of the law instead of outside of it.
    Yes, that's the difference. How many snitches have had their heads sawed off by RJ Reynolds enforcers in the last year?

    There will always be the 'black market' or the 'underground' - even if it's perfectly legal there will always been groups and cartels trying to make more money by underselling. As does often happen with cigarette-rings. . . remember years back when an underground gang was convicted of tax-evasion. They would buy cartons of cigarettes by the hundreds in Texas (I believe) where is was cheaper per carton (cost and taxes) and then drive it to North Carolina where the cigarette-taxes were a lot higher . . . thus spending far less $$ to buy out of state and drive it back to their store - under the radar and around Uncle Sam. . . all for profit.
    How many people did they kill last year in drive-by cigarette shootings? The anti-drug police force is way more ruthless than any "cigarette cartel".

    So legalizaton won't prevent crime - the criminals will just have a bit more wiggle room or will have a different function. Rather than making money by functioning illegally - they'll make money by skirting the system.
    And less people will be killed. The prohibition is proof of that. But if you're saying it won't make a difference either way, then the logical solution is to decriminalize drugs and stop wasting taxpayer dollars fighting them.

    Kind of off subject, though, but I simply don't support the legalization of drugs that are prfoundly mind-altering. Its level of addition isn't so much the issue, it's how it effects the person. Right now tobacco, caffeine and alcohol are our 3 main legal substances - there are others, sure, but nothing quite so widely used. So - I think that present a social level of tolerance is and can be used as a gauge. So - cocain, meth . . . no. But a bit of pot? Sure, why not. I don't hear of people beating their wives to death because they were high on weed.
    I do hear of people beating their wives to death who were not high on weed (or coke for that matter).

    Addiction, wanting to get away or have a mental vacation, is almost human nature - we've been smoking and drinking since the dawn of man. . . but too much of a fun things can be bad. It's not the drugs themselves but how people behave while under the influence that makes it bad.
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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Kind of off subject, though, but I simply don't support the legalization of drugs that are prfoundly mind-altering. Its level of addition isn't so much the issue, it's how it effects the person.
    Why should the degree to which a substance affects the person govern whether it is illegal? They should legalize psilocyban.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Cigarette cartels? You mean the cigarette companies. Yep - they do exist and are quite ruthless, they're just functioning within the means of the law instead of outside of it.
    When was the last time members of opposing cigarette companies gunned down each other, and innocent bystanders, on a city street?

    If illegal drugs were legalized, would they pursue unethical business practices? You betcha. However, would it end organized drug violence? I believe so. Which is why I'm for the legalization and regulation of all drugs.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    Conservatives should be spearheading this effort to legalize as it maximizes individual liberty and reduces crime.

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    Re: Decriminalize Drugs VS Bloody Drug War

    But drugs are morally reprehensible... aren't they?

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