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  • $100 to me, $0 to player B

    4 7.02%
  • $99 to me, $1 to player B

    3 5.26%
  • $90 to me, $10 to player B

    1 1.75%
  • $80 to me, $20 to player B

    1 1.75%
  • $70 to me, $30 to player B

    2 3.51%
  • $60 to me, $40 to player B

    7 12.28%
  • $50 to me, $50 to player B

    36 63.16%
  • $40 to me, $60 to player B

    3 5.26%
  • $30 to me, $70 to player B

    0 0%
  • $20 or less to me, $80 or more to player B

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Thread: Hypothetical: $100 Game

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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    I would probably just go with 50/50 because it seems fair. But I would probably also agree to take less if I was better off than the other guy since its the right thing to do (in other words, I agree with the above posts). I wouldn't expect the same in return though because expecting others to be moral is a road to disappointment.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    I would give it 50/50 split so the guy doesnt jump me the second I turn my back. In addition I would also like to know where the money came from.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I wouldn't expect the same in return though because expecting others to be moral is a road to disappointment.
    I agree, to a degree. I never expect anyone to act in any certain way with me personally, but I do generally expect others to act in moral ways with people other than myself.

    I think that I'd rather risk disapointment than believe that people are generally douchebags.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I agree, to a degree. I never expect anyone to act in any certain way with me personally, but I do generally expect others to act in moral ways with people other than myself.

    I think that I'd rather risk disapointment than believe that people are generally douchebags.
    Its a good stance. Personally, I think people mean to be nice but let life get in the way. Me included.

    But overall, I think morality should be universal. A person should treat a homeless or convicted murderer with the same general human respect that they should give a pillar of the community. Stuff like trust should be earned, but general human decency should be given freely (stuff like being polite or treating people with dignity). The lack of it is our biggest societal problem and its even worse when people like Ayn Rand try to make being a jerk into a moral high ground.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Both of your rational greatly confuses me.

    Economics has to account for psychology otherwise, you remove the key ingredient of what economics is about.
    My initial premise is that of cold, calculation with no psychology. Just numbers. With that in mind, both people gain from the 99/1 split, and since Person A has the control, of course that person should choose the $99. Both win. "Fairness" is irrelevant without human psychology. But you bring up a good point, and this is why "classical" versions of certain economic theories such as socialism, communism, anarchism, and libertarianism do not work.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What are you defining traditional as?

    CC says "pure" which I think is incorrect because in order for it to be pure, you would have to always include psychology.
    I use "pure" and "traditional" interchangably.My economics classes in college followed the Paul Samuelson model. He wrote the textbook I used.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    -- since Person A has the control --
    If Person B has the power of veto and thus both lose - I felt he/she/it had control. Certainly as a Person B I'd never agree to a $1 prize if the other person was to walk off with a free 99.

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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    If Person B has the power of veto and thus both lose - I felt he/she/it had control. Certainly as a Person B I'd never agree to a $1 prize if the other person was to walk off with a free 99.
    Why? You'd still be ahead by $1, free? See the point that I am making is that in a vacuum, as Zyph said, I am taking all these "feelings" out of the equation and making it purely mathematical. In a purely mathematical sense, the 99/1 split makes sense. Both players win.
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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Why? You'd still be ahead by $1, free?
    In a vacuum - yes, if I were a computer - yes. Maybe my mathematical thinking isn't as advanced but I also can't help thinking "what could I buy with $1?"

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In a purely mathematical sense, the 99/1 split makes sense. Both players win.
    Agreed, but there are very few of us who think in a purely mathematic way. Maybe I can't help but keep "feelings" in but as player B, I would make sure Player A knew I wanted half of any freebies. Player A would also be in no doubt that I'd use my powerful veto otherwise.

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    Re: Hypothetical: $100 Game

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Why? You'd still be ahead by $1, free? See the point that I am making is that in a vacuum, as Zyph said, I am taking all these "feelings" out of the equation and making it purely mathematical. In a purely mathematical sense, the 99/1 split makes sense. Both players win.
    Without feelings, the money has no value. Money's value stems directly form psychology, so there's no way to remove human psychology from this situation.
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