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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    How is accusing people of racism an example of racism? I don't understand your reasoning here.
    Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism. Never said it was.

    However, accusing people of racism based on this flimsy a reason indicates to me that the accusers are predisposed to expect racism, and biased against those who they consider most likely to be racist. Which I consider in turn to be at the least biased, and at the worst racist.

    I may be incorrect.

    But the very fact that they went ahead with such an accusation, dispite it's obviously invalid nature, indicates to me that preventing racism is not the goal here.
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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism. Never said it was.

    However, accusing people of racism based on this flimsy a reason indicates to me that the accusers are predisposed to expect racism, and biased against those who they consider most likely to be racist. Which I consider in turn to be at the least biased, and at the worst racist.

    I may be incorrect.

    But the very fact that they went ahead with such an accusation, dispite it's obviously invalid nature, indicates to me that preventing racism is not the goal here.
    Guess everybody is entitled to their 15 minutes of fame. These folks found their opportunity and took advantage of it.

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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism. Never said it was.

    However, accusing people of racism based on this flimsy a reason indicates to me that the accusers are predisposed to expect racism, and biased against those who they consider most likely to be racist. Which I consider in turn to be at the least biased, and at the worst racist.

    I may be incorrect.

    But the very fact that they went ahead with such an accusation, dispite it's obviously invalid nature, indicates to me that preventing racism is not the goal here.
    Racism is holding a preconcieved view against someone because of their race. This may be considered race-mongering, but to call it racism cheapens the word
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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Racism is holding a preconceived view against someone because of their race. This may be considered race-mongering, but to call it racism cheapens the word
    I called it racism because I was of the opinion that those who accused Hallmark of selling a racist greeting card were working with a preconceived expectation of racism. Which very closely fits your definition.

    But perhaps I am incorrect.
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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Are you disagreeing with my statement? It's what I've noticed from emperical evidence in my life. I also have lived in both liberal areas (urban Sacramento) and VERY conservative areas (rural orchard country in the Sacramento Valley), and this seems true both places. Conservatives, I've noticed, have been increasingly frequently using the "race card card", whining about how much they're accused of racism, even when it happens fairly rarely, and usually targeted at specific people.
    Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but I don't think so.
    Being called a racist is one of the most disgusting things a person can be called. Since Obama became president the word is being thrown around all time, even by former presidents when discussing conservatives and the tea parties. I know it's just a political ploy by Dems and the Media to discredit the tea parties but it still hurts. I am not a racist. I don't care what color our president is, but just because he's black doesn't mean I should shut up and not speak out against the destruction of our country and constitution.
    If we were truly a racist country we would not have a black president. I will give Obama that much. He's not the one bringing race into it, though he's not speaking out against those who are.

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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    LAY OFF MY HOOPS AND YOYO!!

    "We're gonna run the world, run the universe, and run everything after that . . . *can't hear it all* black holes!" is what I heard (or something like it). All completely universe-related.

    Great publicity - I bet you a lot of people haven't even heard of my Hoops and Yoyo.
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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LAY OFF MY HOOPS AND YOYO!!

    "We're gonna run the world, run the universe, and run everything after that . . . *can't hear it all* black holes!" is what I heard (or something like it). All completely universe-related.

    Great publicity - I bet you a lot of people haven't even heard of my Hoops and Yoyo.
    I had never before this whole thing. It is like a cartoon or something?
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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    I watched the first video in the OP and I was trying to think of how it was racist. I honestly couldn't come up with a reason. Then I watched the second one and was like... lolwut?

    Seriously, I heard black hole and thought, "Oh, they mean that you should watch out for obstacles in life." I actually drew a positive conclusion about it.

    This isn't even about being PC anymore. It's just petty political posturing at this point.

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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I had never before this whole thing. It is like a cartoon or something?
    Hoops and Yoyo are animated characters for hallmark greeting cards - but they became extremely popular and they started making toys and other things with them on it.
    Hoops and Yoyo

    They're hilarious and precious - I send their cards to people (e and otherwise) all the time. They're pure comedy - and if someone hears this one in a store and gets offended it's likely they've never been bitten by the H and Y bug - it's impossible to find them offensive or "racist"
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    Re: Hallmark graduation card - racist?

    More immature, pinheadedness from some Black community. Grow up, people!
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