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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    People need to explain what exactly "unAmerican" means
    It's a different definition for everyone, really it means nothing, since there is no consensus of what is "unAmerican". One could argue the Constitution is the basis of what is American, but when we can argue about what that even means its not a good basis of what is or isn't "American".
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as "american." We are all individuals here and should act as such. The idea of an authentic american culture personally pisses me off because such a thing, if enforced, would restrict my freedoms and suggests a top down approach to life (people must be made to conform to some culture) instead of a bottom up (people decide for themselves and act accordingly).
    Off topic, but if there is no American culture, then there is no such thing as culture.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Off topic, but if there is no American culture, then there is no such thing as culture.
    Well what is 'American Culture' then?

    I see regional and social cultures more than an overall "American" thing that most people have in common or work to uphold and further.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Off topic, but if there is no American culture, then there is no such thing as culture.
    I believe it was implied to mean: static American culture in which we must adhere. American culture, is by definition, a melting pot of different and everchanging beliefs. Which means that it is necessary to accept a differing belief. So to say that certain things, such as gay marriage, are not allowed because it's against the culture that is America is just dumb... that culture is meant to be constantly in flux and permissive.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    My two cents: If people are complaining about the unemployment rate, yet they oppose assistance to the unemployed... they need their head checked.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Welfare at the federal level is unconstitutional but at the state level its legal but still a horrible idea.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Welfare at the federal level is unconstitutional but at the state level its legal but still a horrible idea.
    true on both counts



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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Welfare at the federal level is unconstitutional but at the state level its legal but still a horrible idea.
    The mobs of the homeless unemployed Romans burned the place to the ground.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    The mobs of the homeless unemployed Romans burned the place to the ground.
    Ok?...and?
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Welfare is important for the greater good of society. I have known people who truly benefitted from it in a time of need. I also know some who rode the system and took advantage. As much as I dislike the freeloaders, I still think it's an important system that needs to be in place. I have no children, but my taxes pay for their education. I have no problem with that because I see the value in having an educated society. And a housed and fed one too. Without it, society as we know it would be much different, IMO. And not for the better.
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