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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    I dont see public assistance as "unAmercan" (Whatever that means). These programs are there to help people who need that extra help and I see no shame in accepting it. If you are abusing the system or taking advantage of it, that's another story entirely. Essentially, you are stealing resources from people who need them when you are unwilling to add to what you take away.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Welfare isn't meant to be lived on for many years as a replacement to a traditional income. It's meant to keep people from being homeless, and giving them a chance to survive, while they get back on their feet. I'm on food stamps, and without them we would go very hungry, and I've applied for more jobs than I can remember at this point. Still haven't found work, but when I do, these food stamps will allow me to save that money instead of spend it so I can continue my education, and rise out of poverty. Just a little info for people who think it is an "entitlement" program. If someone is using welfare as a replacement to a traditional income for an extended period of time, then I think something should be done to get them back to work.

    As for the OP, no it isn't un-American.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooChild View Post
    Is the American public making excusses for these people on wellfare, and by giving it to them are we just keeping them content with there current situation.
    Oh, but they are not content at all. Most of them are miserable and resentful. You will likely never meet people who are more unhappy than those who are not earning their own way. Look at their neighborhoods. They are some of the most miserable places on Earth.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    I believe in prosperity. Whether that is "American" or not, I really guess I don't care. I believe society is more prosperous when there are enough jobs so that everyone who wants one can have one. I believe that when there are not enough jobs for everyone who wants one (such as when there are 150,000,000 people who want jobs and there are only 135,000,000 jobs available), that the next best thing, for prosperity, is for the rich to be taxed and the money used to create a subsistence living for the poor, preferably on a temporary basis.

    I believe that for the sake of people's dignity, whatever system of economics we adopt, all people ought to be able to find productive occupation. That is the preferred state of things. If we fail in that goal, then we must institute measures for people's survival.

    I don't believe that we have the right to institute a system of property rights, currency and exchange where some people are completely left out. A free market system without some form of welfare is exactly that.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    I think you have to have kids to get on welfare. We are America, and we should help children with food to eat and a roof over there heads. It is just to bad that welfare is abused the way it is. It needs reformed big time.
    Not sure if it's still the case, but it used to be if a single mom tried to work part time or take a temp job in hopes of getting full time, their welfare and Medicaid would be taken away. They were better off just staying in the system. I think those who at least try should be rewarded for their efforts and maybe eventually they could make it on their own.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooChild View Post
    SO THE BIG QUESTION...

    is it unamerican for the federal government to take my money and give it to someone else because they think they are entitled to it.


    MY TWO CENTS...

    America was partly founded on this idea of "the prusuit for happiness". to me it seems wellfare is more like the "gift of happiness". Is there an excuss to be on wellfare today? I dont understand how someone born and raised in Mexico that doesn't speak english can somehow cross the border illegally and find work to better their families back in Mexico but an American born and raised in this nation some how cant make ends meet. Is the American public making excusses for these people on wellfare, and by giving it to them are we just keeping them content with there current situation. I think so. It seems that a majority of people on wellfare keep repeating the same cycle generatin after generation. There are people getting wellfare that have things like cable TV, cellphones, Internet etc... I'm all about helping someone out, but if im going to give someone a helping hand its going to be on my terms. i want to decide if that person deserves my help, not the government deciding for me.
    No, welfare as a temporary help and means of support when life is rough and goes sour is not "un-American" - that embodies America, actually.

    But abusing it or deciding to always *need* it is un-American because another aspect of Americanism is to be able to live a solid and steady life on your own - hence us being "the land of opportunity"
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    It depends on what you think it means to be American.
    If being American is about individual liberty then welfare is un-American.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    People need to explain what exactly "unAmerican" means
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    People need to explain what exactly "unAmerican" means
    see the Obama administration



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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    People need to explain what exactly "unAmerican" means
    Throughout most of my formative years, it was repeated to me that it is unAmerican to be a communist. I believe that I've also heard that unAmericanism can come in the forms of being a Hippie, or a war protester. Oh yeah, and "a joint is a bad place to be". Thanks Merle.

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