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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Absolutely the socialist scam of stealing money to buy votes is completely un-American.

    It's also unconstitutional.

    Then again, it's also flat wrong and immoral.

    No wonder the Left love it so.

    The AMERICAN notion is one of voluntary assistance, you know, "freedom to choose"? Ever hear of that strange idea? The worker has a body, so it should be his choice on where his charitble dollars go, if he chooses to have any charitable dollars in the first place.

    This notion that "charity" can be compelled at gun point totally ignores the definition of the word "charity".
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    I know way too many people who "live off wellfare, its hooked up bro". This has been hevily taken advantage. If You think weed unmotivates, try giving people free govt. money and see what happens, oh wait, we already have -_-... Not legit stats but id say for every 1 person that deserves government money, 3 people dont, sadly they all "need" it now because they are addicted to govenment entitlement programs...
    Unless someone has delivered a service or a product, no one "deserves" TAXPAYER money. Being poor isn't a justification for someone to reach into my pocket and help themslelves.

    EVERY poor citizen of the United States should be in the streets protesting the invasion of the United States by Mexico and their loss of jobs.

    Instead, they demand stolen money and vote for the people who are allowing an enemy nation to invade and take jobs they could be doing to earn a living.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as "american." We are all individuals here and should act as such. The idea of an authentic american culture personally pisses me off because such a thing, if enforced, would restrict my freedoms and suggests a top down approach to life (people must be made to conform to some culture) instead of a bottom up (people decide for themselves and act accordingly).
    Oh, no.

    There's a very real American culture.

    A man is measured by what he's accomplished, not by who his parents are. A man stands on his own feet, and is ashamed to take charity.

    People who sit around on their fat lazy asses demanding money stolen from Americans aren't themselves Americans, no more than the fleas on a wolf are wolves.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There is nothing unAmerican about accepting public assistance.
    Only when the "public assistance" is PRIVATELY provided, when the supplicant (I'm using the right word) recognizes that he's owed nothing by strangers, and when he's determined to get off charity as soon as he can, and, if possible, either pay it back or stand ready to help others.

    There's nothing unAmerican about providing public assistance.
    There's nothing un-American in offering charity willingly as a matter of private conscience to private agencies to help the needy.

    There's nothing American about the government TAKING money, under threat of force and violence, from people for the express purpose of giving it to others simply because they are poor.

    The very existence of any such system is a corruption of American beliefs of the role of government as expressed by the Declartion of Independence, the Constitution, and of over 100 years of American tradition of self-reliance and voluntary charity. The system is naturally open to corruption. It's corrupted the spirits of those who live on it, it's corrupted those who run it and are employed by it, and it's corrupted the politicians who promote it.

    Generations of Americans have been corrupted by the wrong notion that total strangers "owe" them "their" money.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    My two cents: If people are complaining about the unemployment rate, yet they oppose assistance to the unemployed... they need their head checked.
    /no relation.
    The people are supporting the amount of money the government is stealing the throw at the unemployed, while not only allowing tens of millions of invading aliens to remain in this country but insisting those who want these invaders to go home are racists, have their heads where the sun never shines.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    The mobs of the homeless unemployed Romans burned the place to the ground.
    Actually, the Roman Senate quashed a suggestion that the slaves be required to wear special clothes to mark them for what they were. They didn't want the slaves to realize just how many of them there were, because if the slaves revolted in Rome itself, they'd win.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    alot more social programs? how are we going to pay for it given the deficit. and what are you going to do about the massive rate of births to unwed mothers--being born to a single parent family is the greatest predictor of poverty.
    I would rather my hard earned tax dollars go towards helping the poor rather than bailing out of big biz. and rich criminals.
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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I would rather my hard earned tax dollars go towards helping the poor rather than bailing out of big biz. and rich criminals.
    I would rather my hard earned dollars not have the prefix "tax" in front of them.

    And that means they shouldn't be stolen from me to bride either big business or little lazybones.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooChild View Post
    SO THE BIG QUESTION...

    is it unamerican for the federal government to take my money and give it to someone else because they think they are entitled to it.


    MY TWO CENTS...

    America was partly founded on this idea of "the prusuit for happiness". to me it seems wellfare is more like the "gift of happiness". Is there an excuss to be on wellfare today? I dont understand how someone born and raised in Mexico that doesn't speak english can somehow cross the border illegally and find work to better their families back in Mexico but an American born and raised in this nation some how cant make ends meet. Is the American public making excusses for these people on wellfare, and by giving it to them are we just keeping them content with there current situation. I think so. It seems that a majority of people on wellfare keep repeating the same cycle generatin after generation. There are people getting wellfare that have things like cable TV, cellphones, Internet etc... I'm all about helping someone out, but if im going to give someone a helping hand its going to be on my terms. i want to decide if that person deserves my help, not the government deciding for me.
    I think that the lack of labor rights and consumer protections as well as the unwillingness to pay taxes for national infrastructure is more un-American than welfare is.

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    Re: Is wellfare today un-American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Absolutely the socialist scam of stealing money to buy votes is completely un-American.

    It's also unconstitutional.

    Then again, it's also flat wrong and immoral.

    No wonder the Left love it so.

    The AMERICAN notion is one of voluntary assistance, you know, "freedom to choose"? Ever hear of that strange idea? The worker has a body, so it should be his choice on where his charitble dollars go, if he chooses to have any charitable dollars in the first place.

    This notion that "charity" can be compelled at gun point totally ignores the definition of the word "charity".
    Money for votes is a republican specialty. Big businesses provide the money and then tell republicans how to vote and what laws should be created,.

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