View Poll Results: PLACE YOUR BETS ON HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET TO THE 30'S as of June 10, 2010

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    3 6.52%
  • 3-4 months

    5 10.87%
  • 5-6 months

    9 19.57%
  • 7-8 months

    7 15.22%
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    2 4.35%
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    1 2.17%
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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Lol, compare Reagan and Bush's ratings for the same time frame. Mid-thirties 2 years in. Please.
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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    For those unsatisfied with the Harris Poll, the LA Times brings you Zogby.
    5 months and 13-days after this thread had started.
    39% is unrealistically low. RCP average is probably the best barometer... currently 46% approve & 48.5% disapprove... -2.5 spread

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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Well you can look at them all here. That's a very good tool.

    Reagan was a few points lower at this point, Bush is quite a bit higher, riding on the massive boost he got from 9/11.

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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Lol, compare Reagan and Bush's ratings for the same time frame. Mid-thirties 2 years in. Please.
    Obama is no Reagan.
    Obama is no Bush.

    Bush had an Iraq war and a decent economy. 53 weeks of continuous growth after his tax cuts. And he kept us safe.
    Reagan... was the anti-Obama in every way.

    We have just had another attempted attack from some Islamofascist. I thought he was supposed to change the world the day he was inaugurated?

    I don't recall any president talking down the country as badly and often as Obama. He's proven himself to be a miserable, thin-skinned ideologue. Such high rhetoric... was nothing more than pure unadulterated BS.

    Bitter Clingers.
    Enemies.
    Hostages.

    This from the man who said... No Red State, Blue State?

    LOL... this guy is toast... there are some Dems surely looking at taking a run at The One.

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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Obama is no Reagan.
    Obama is no Bush.

    Bush had an Iraq war and a decent economy. 53 weeks of continuous growth after his tax cuts. And he kept us safe.
    Reagan... was the anti-Obama in every way.

    We have just had another attempted attack from some Islamofascist. I thought he was supposed to change the world the day he was inaugurated?

    I don't recall any president talking down the country as badly and often as Obama. He's proven himself to be a miserable, thin-skinned ideologue. Such high rhetoric... was nothing more than pure unadulterated BS.

    Bitter Clingers.
    Enemies.
    Hostages.

    This from the man who said... No Red State, Blue State?

    LOL... this guy is toast... there are some Dems surely looking at taking a run at The One.

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    I doubt any Democrats can go up against Obama and win the nomination. He has too much support, and name recognition is already established.

    We still have an Iraq War... and an Afghanistan War. Infact, he's increased the troop count in Afghanistan and in general increased military spending.

    If Reagan is the antithesis of Obama then how come his poll numbers were lower than his at this point Not saying anything, just that this doesn't make sense from your standpoint. At this point in Reagan's presidency top income tax rates were at 50%.

    Is he toast? No not really. He's only almost 2 years into his term, and still has fairly standard approval rating. Sure, loads of other presidents have been higher at this point, but he's not low enough to predict that in two years he'll be toast. Reagan was even lower.

    I count myself among those who disapprove of Obama. Does this mean I'd vote Republican? Hell no. Does it mean I'd vote Democrat either? Again, hell no. My guess, near everyone who says they approve of Obama will be voting for him (among those who vote), but a significant number of those who disapprove of him won't vote Republican either.


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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    It seems that the WHite House strategy is to move to the center and work with Republicans on what they want and attempt to do what Bill Clinton did. One big advantage Obama has is much of his core support is the African American vote and that is not going to go to any other Dem no matter what progressives get behind them. Will the Clinton triangulation work? Time will tell.

    There was a poll just earlier this week in Michigan that showed Obama would still win the state - even after a 20 point GOP win in the governors race last month. So do not count him out.

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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    I doubt any Democrats can go up against Obama and win the nomination. He has too much support, and name recognition is already established.

    We still have an Iraq War... and an Afghanistan War. Infact, he's increased the troop count in Afghanistan and in general increased military spending.

    If Reagan is the antithesis of Obama then how come his poll numbers were lower than his at this point Not saying anything, just that this doesn't make sense from your standpoint. At this point in Reagan's presidency top income tax rates were at 50%.

    Is he toast? No not really. He's only almost 2 years into his term, and still has fairly standard approval rating. Sure, loads of other presidents have been higher at this point, but he's not low enough to predict that in two years he'll be toast. Reagan was even lower.

    I count myself among those who disapprove of Obama. Does this mean I'd vote Republican? Hell no. Does it mean I'd vote Democrat either? Again, hell no. My guess, near everyone who says they approve of Obama will be voting for him (among those who vote), but a significant number of those who disapprove of him won't vote Republican either.

    I'm not convinced of that. I have been banned, mainly because of timing, from a very, well used-to-be very, pro-Obama site. Myself and dozens of others were banned last week and the week before for truly losing our tempers with Obama and his pre-capitulations. This week, after the tax speech, the mood, the remarks being made and being allowed to remain, ... well, I'm not so sure Obama won't face a challenger. It was truly the last straw for many. Not so much the framework itself, as the way he pre-capitulated AGAIN and without even conferencing with the Dems. All but the truly die hard Obamanauts, akin to the ol' Bu****es, are still on board with primarying him. That includes all colors and walks of life.
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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Wow, you've been getting the memos. Do we have to keep arguing about the facts you have so desperately avoided or misinterpreted?

    Here's a synopsis of the Bush legacy from The Atlantic.

    Closing The Book On The Bush Legacy - Ronald Brownstein - Politics - The Atlantic

    "On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush's two terms. While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked. By contrast, the country's condition improved on each of those measures during Bill Clinton's two terms, often substantially."

    And for the record, this administration has already created more jobs in 2010 alone than the Bushies in 8 years. This from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.



    And lastly, the Bush deficits are still driving this mess. So really, can we at least try a little intellectual honesty and stay away from wing-nut speak?

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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    This from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    Obviously a communist organization.

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    Re: New obama low 44%... Place your bets on how long it will take to get to the 30's

    Because in November/December 1982, unemployment was 10.8%, due to the recession brought on by Reagan policies in 1981.

    Seriously, I was there. He was my Commander in Chief. I joined the service because there were no jobs for a 21 year old kid with few skills. Then he got us blown up in Beirut, but that's a different story.
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