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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    She could have, but that would have been on her as a Christian. She did the right thing. I think the school could have shown a little of Christs forgiveness but that is just me.
    Oh, yeah, another of Christ's sayings, only he can withhold forgiveness, but we are to forgive 70 times 7. Funny how so many Christians will use the words of Paul to castigate others, but fail miserably in following the words of Christ...
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Actually, you're arguments are incorrect - but they come to the correct conclusion. A religious school is NOT an individual; but a 501(c)(3) and must adhere to the laws as described for such institutions - both federal and state.

    NOW - with the school being part of a religious institution - it should be excepted from discrimination in employment. Therefore, they can fire her for not fulfilling a religious role.

    And Hooters gets a VERY, VERY, VERY special exemption called a Bone Fide Occupational Qualification - but only for their servers and bartenders. In other words, they can't say - fire a female kitchen employee or manager because she doesn't look good in orange shorts.
    Nikolai Grushevski, a man from Corpus Christi, has filed a lawsuit because Hooters wouldn't let him work as a waiter, which we guess would be called a Hooters Boy.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    If said firing clause is in the employment contract then yes thats their right.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    If said firing clause is in the employment contract then yes thats their right.
    It is an unenforceable contract. They, the school, can no more force her her diet then they can her sex life.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    They also can't force her to take the job. An employment agreement is two way.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Oh, yeah, another of Christ's sayings, only he can withhold forgiveness, but we are to forgive 70 times 7. Funny how so many Christians will use the words of Paul to castigate others, but fail miserably in following the words of Christ...
    Well I agree but Paul laid down the law as well. If we forgive someone and they continue to commit the same act over and over we can forgive them, but escaping punishment is a different story.

    This does not apply here though. I don't think the school should have fired her unless she has some kind of history. Not for one slip, but they are well within their rights as far as Florida law goes.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    They also can't force her to take the job. An employment agreement is two way.
    And if slavery is a condition of the contract?

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I disagree. Florida is an at will state. Read post #32 for details: http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058796402
    And I responded to this in post #51. Further... both federal and state laws protect workers from employment discrimination. In most areas these two bodies of law overlap; as an example, federal law permits state to enact their own statutes barring discrimination on the basis of race, gender, religion, national origin and age, so long as the state law does not provide less protections than federal law would. Federal law

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    If said firing clause is in the employment contract then yes thats their right.
    Not if the firing clause is unconstitutional it isn't...
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    They also can't force her to take the job. An employment agreement is two way.
    That kind of thinking led to things like child labor and other abuses. "Well they don't have to work for their employer if they don't like the abuse". That just doesn't fly anymore though.

    The employment agreement is a two way relationship but it is an uneven power balance between the employer and the employee. The employer holds a huge amount of leverage over the employee in the way of his salary, his reputation, his retirement vestment, health benefits, etc. For that reason, there are safeguards in place to prevent abusive situations, one of which is undue intrusion into the personal life of the employee by the employer. The employer solicits the responsibility...he advertises the position and entices the employee into his business. There is an understood agreement upon entering the employment relationship that the employee will perform his job function adequately and commensurate with the pay and the employer will treat the employee fairly and equally.

    What this woman is going to do is show a hostility toward her pregnancy and thereby her gender and make them pay through the nose...as well she should. The "at will" status of Florida's labor laws does not negate the employer's responsibility to not be abusive or intrusive. "At will" sounds really great and all and like the employee has every right to walk away just like the employer but even that is unbalanced. The employer might end the agreement on a whim with no repercussions, but you let the employee do that and there's all kinds of backlash in the form of reference and reputation problems.

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