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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    As much as I hate to say it, if the lady violated school policy it is within their rights as a private entity to fire her for cause. By her own admission, she became pregnant before she was married. The Christian church views that as fornication and goes against their core value system. Doesn't matter if she concieved 24 hrs before the wedding. It's still viewed as "conception out of wedlock".

    Now, me personally I would have placed the teacher on maternity leave since she did get married and the school didn't find out for sure about her pregnancy until she told them. I mean, she was only 3 weeks into conception; she couldn't have been showing that much. And since she did go ahead with the weeding soon after conception...

    It's tacky, but in this case I'd have to reluctantly say her firing was justified.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's not always true. Just because Florida is an "at will" state doesn't mean they don't have to follow certain guidelines when it comes to the treatment, hiring, and termination of their employees. Several things could factor in like hostility of the work environment, whether the same standards are applied to all employees, discrimination, etc.

    I believe strongly in the rights of private businesses but I also believe there are implied contractual obligations on the part of the employer since they are basically soliciting the responsibility of having the strongest hand in a person's livelihood and financial well-being. If you don't want to play by certain rules, then you always have the right to not hire people, too. The responsibility of bearing all the risk in an employment situation should not fall completely on the employeed while the employer gets a pass to exert authority or leverage separation of income capriciously.
    I agree, but post #37 is better at explaining why. In this case she appears to have broken the rules even if by accident.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    She was not doing anything illegal nor trying intentionally to harm the school. She should sue them.
    Wouldn't this be similar to businesses that screen for nicotine? They are both legal and done in off time yet they can fire you for both. I understand there is a difference. One is based on beliefs and one is based on finacial reasons (lower insurance premiums). But in the end I believe a employer should be able to set any standards they wish as long as employees have it in writting and agree to it prior to employment.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    As I understand it...It depends.

    Depending on the laws of the area the incident occurs in.

    Depending on the contract or lack thereof that the employee is bound by.

    Depending on the specifics of the incident or occurrence that prompts the firing.

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    My opinion, based on what I know about this specific situation and the laws of the area it occurred in, is that:

    Yes, they should be allowed, but it is not right according to my personal opinion on how the world should work.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its a private business so yes they should be able to fire anyone who does something that does not line up with their beliefs.
    So if they don't believe blacks should be teachers, they can fire them too, right?

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    So if they don't believe blacks should be teachers, they can fire them too, right?
    If a school with an Afro-centric curriculum wanted only Black teachers, should they be forced to hire Whites?
    Last edited by MyOwnDrum; 06-09-10 at 10:32 PM.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Here's the story:

    FOXNews.com - Fla. Christian School Fires Teacher Over 'Fornication' Claims



    What do you think? Poll will follow...
    Well Christian "schools" (if you call them that) are just corrupt centers of child abuse and quasi-moral indoctrination, so if this bitch was willing to participate in this cult and lie to kids for a living, then I guess this is Karma.

    But I still hope the school gets sued out of existence, since that'll mean less kids will be affected by their crap.

    On a side note, weddings (in the modern Western since) didn't even exist when Christianity was founded, so having sex outside of a Western wedding has nothing to do with "traditional Christian 'moral' code". Marriage in the Biblical since was just ancient arranged marriage (aka forced sex slavery, usually with girls just old enough to bleed - it wouldn't even be legal today since we have laws against pedophilia). Maybe that's why Jesus was against "marriage" (the ancient form anyway).
    Last edited by Toothpicvic; 06-09-10 at 10:46 PM.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    If a school with an Afro-centric curriculum wanted only Black teachers, should they be forced to hire Whites?
    I believe they already are. I could be mistaken, but my understanding is that it's illegal for them to discriminate the same as anyone else. I believe that they're required to use the same hiring practices as any other school.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    I believe they already are. I could be mistaken, but my understanding is that it's illegal for them to discriminate the same as anyone else. I believe that they're required to use the same hiring practices as any other school.
    (Serious response this time)

    If an organization wants to have stupid rules, then I don't see why the govt should dictate to it how to run itself. No one is forced to go there (and I don't blame them for wanting to stay away). For example, some cities have laws banning smoking in bars because they say it's "bad for the customers' health". Well, if the smoke bothers me, then I'll just find a different bar. They'll probably lose money for allowing smoking since most people don't smoke, so if they want to have a little smoking bar, why not let them?

    On the other hand, I don't think that a school should get special rights just because it's "Christian" (they already do, what with "creationist" ciriculum for example, but that's a different topic). If what the school did violates an already existing "discrimination law", then I don't think the school should be exempt from being sued.

    Personally I'd have never worked for a wackjob cult like that in the first place.
    Last edited by Toothpicvic; 06-09-10 at 11:12 PM.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Well, if the smoke bothers me, then I'll just find a different bar. .
    In the city of Dallas the smoker will get a 250$ fine and so will the bar.

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