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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    No it's not irrelevant, you can't actually prove conclusively that someone is having sex unless they volunteer the information willingly which she did by applying for maternity leave, she violated the contract end of story. Oh and just where did you come up with the idea that a contract is only valid if it is continiously enforced under zero tolerance guidelines?
    Actually, he's right. In the corporate world you have a Hell of a time firing someone on an issue like this if it hasn't been previously enforced.

    Also, I think it has yet to be established that she actually violated her contract. If that were as cut and dry as you make it out to be, there wouldn't be a court case pending for it.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    Actually, he's right. In the corporate world you have a Hell of a time firing someone on an issue like this if it hasn't been previously enforced.
    Then why even have contracts?

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Then why even have contracts?
    You're making an assumption that there was a morality clause in the contract, which the plaintiff says isn't the case.

    Contracts are also great for both the coproration and the contractor.

    The problem arises when a corporate entity attempts to place restrictions or entitlements into the contract that infringe upon individual rights protected by the Bill of Rights.

    Personally, I don't think that's a bad thing.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    An employer has the right to review his employees work performance whenever they want, if that performance is found to be lacking then he has the right to fire her, that would include excessive absenteeism and lateness.



    The reason is obvious, IE that she violated her contractual agreement.



    Um if she requested maternity leave then she volunteered the information that she violated her contractual agreement to abstain from sex while under there employ, see ya later.



    Oh I see a contractual obligation means absolutely **** all to you. Why even have contract terms then?



    Understand contracts are not binding unless they are continiously enforced under strict zero tolerance guidelines. Interesting, bull****, but interesting none the less. A contract is a contract, she violated the contract, she was in the wrong, the employer had every right to fire her.
    You have no understanding of corporate law whatsoever. Just because something is in writing doesn't make it legally binding. The employer's own actions indicated it wasn't a problem. He can't then go back and fire her when it's inconvenient for him. This isn't just some random legal theory, this has been established law for decades.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Then why even have contracts?
    Why have contracts if an employee can be denied the leave to which they are contractually entitled, unless they have a 100% perfect record at work for the entirety of their employment?
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Here's the story:

    FOXNews.com - Fla. Christian School Fires Teacher Over 'Fornication' Claims



    What do you think? Poll will follow...
    Next you're going ask "should a Christian ______ be allowed to fire clergy for abusing children?"

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meg13 View Post
    Everybody commits a sin at some point. We always do. If teachers at Christian schools were to be fired every time they committed a sin there would be no teachers.
    "Every citizen commits a crime at some point. We always do. If Americans were sent before the firing squad every time they went more than 5 mph over the speed limit....."....you see where this is going.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Why have contracts if an employee can be denied the leave to which they are contractually entitled, unless they have a 100% perfect record at work for the entirety of their employment?
    How can you be entitled to a leave which comes about directly from violating your contract?

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You have no understanding of corporate law whatsoever. Just because something is in writing doesn't make it legally binding. The employer's own actions indicated it wasn't a problem. He can't then go back and fire her when it's inconvenient for him. This isn't just some random legal theory, this has been established law for decades.
    Understood, a contractual agreement means absolutely nothing unless a zero tolerance policy is implemented 100% of the time for any and all infractions. She violated the contract and now you want her to be granted a payed vacation as a direct result of violating that contract.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    How can you be entitled to a leave which comes about directly from violating your contract?
    So just to clarify...you believe that the first time an employee commits ANY violation of corporate policy whatsoever (most likely on their first day on the job), they forever forfeit their right to maternity leave, vacation time, and sick leave? And if the employer decides to allow them those things anyway, it's only out of generosity rather than contractual obligation?

    Give me a freaking break. You have absolutely NO understanding of corporate law whatsoever, and your legal theories are ridiculously impractical.
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