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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If emissions from your property are destroying my property I will come after you. You have no right to destroy my property just because you see fit to run a cement factory on yours.
    Except for the part where where the emissions of one party (the male) caused the other party (the female) to be permanently cemented together (in parenthood), this all seems a bit off topic.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's irrelevant. This doesn't fly for the same reason that you can't say "We're sorry Mrs. Smith, we understand you filed for maternity leave...but we also have ignored it in the past when you showed up for work five minutes late. Sorry, you're fired." That is nothing more than an EXCUSE to not have to pay maternity leave since the employer never raised the issue before, and any court in America would feel the same way.

    And you are simply factually incorrect that the text of the contract is the only thing that should matter. Anyone who has ever worked in a large organization knows that the rules on paper can be dramatically different from the rules in practice. If an employer allows violations of the written rules to occur, then the courts will NOT view the written policy as the employer's actual policy. This is widely established law.
    A violation of the contract is a violation of the contract, ignoring it in the past does not make it acceptable in the present. If she violated her voluntary contractual obligations it doesn't matter when she did it especially since becoming pregnant establishes beyond any doubt that she was in fact in violation of the contract.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Everybody commits a sin at some point. We always do. If teachers at Christian schools were to be fired every time they committed a sin there would be no teachers.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Thank God she wasn't a pedophile priest. They'd never get rid of her.

    They must not have liked her. They could have swept this under the rug for anyone that they liked.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meg13 View Post
    Everybody commits a sin at some point. We always do. If teachers at Christian schools were to be fired every time they committed a sin there would be no teachers.
    I don't believe in sin, at least not in the Christian perception of right and wrong, but what I do believe in is contractual obligation. If she violated the contract then they have every right to fire her.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    If the school receives local, county, state, or federal tax dollars, then they need to follow local, county, state, or federal laws in regards to discrimination. If they operate purely as a private religious entity, then I don't care how ignorant they are.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    A violation of the contract is a violation of the contract, ignoring it in the past does not make it acceptable in the present. If she violated her voluntary contractual obligations it doesn't matter when she did it especially since becoming pregnant establishes beyond any doubt that she was in fact in violation of the contract.
    So just to clarify, if an employee came into work late once six months ago, and the employer didn't raise the issue at the time, you DO think it should be legal for the employer to then use that as a justification to fire her when she requests maternity leave? Sorry, but that is the stupidest **** I've ever heard, and no one who believes in the rule of law can possibly take that seriously. If the courts actually took your claim seriously (which fortunately they don't...and haven't for nearly a century), then the employment contract guaranteeing maternity leave would mean literally nothing, as the employer will nearly ALWAYS be able to find SOME small violation of the rules in an employee's past to justify her termination.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If the school receives local, county, state, or federal tax dollars, then they need to follow local, county, state, or federal laws in regards to discrimination. If they operate purely as a private religious entity, then I don't care how ignorant they are.
    Being a private entity is no excuse for violating the employee's contractual right to maternity leave.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Being a private entity is no excuse for violating the employee's contractual right to maternity leave.
    Did the school do this?
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If the school receives local, county, state, or federal tax dollars, then they need to follow local, county, state, or federal laws in regards to discrimination. If they operate purely as a private religious entity, then I don't care how ignorant they are.
    Im pretty sure private enterprises have to follow those laws too.

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