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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It was not a violation of her rights. No one has a right to a job.

    Again Florida is an "at will" state. They can fire you for any reason at any time, period.
    I did not say she had a right to a job.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I did not say being fired in and of its self was a violation of her rights. I'm saying the reason she was fired was a violation of her rights.
    No, it's not. Since she has no right to be employed by them, getting fired cannot violate a non-existent right.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I did not say she had a right to a job.
    Then please explain what right was violated?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And some terms of employment are blatantly a violation of individual rights. Say a term for employment was one could only eat cheesecake on Tuesday. That is a violation of rights and this this ladies rights were violated.
    How can they violate an individuals rights when that said individual agrees to something? If anything she exercised her rights as an individual to agree to terms of employment. Her rights were not violated, in essence they were exercised.

    Like I said the school might have lost one of their best teachers.
    That doesn't matter, she violated her terms of employment. You can disagree with the school's policy but that doesn't mean that it's a violation of her rights or that the school has no legality to fire her.
    That is on duty and well within the business' right. Off duty one can what ever the heck they want to.
    Not necessarily true. She agreed to her terms of employment which meant living by Christian morals to be employed by a Christian school. She has the freedom to do what she wants as an individual, but there are also consequences that come along with that. As an individual she agreed to the terms of employment, and as an individual she violated them and was fired.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then please explain what right was violated?
    Well for one her right to privacy off the clock.

    An employer can no more dictate an individual's diet than they can dictate whom and when they have sex.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    If there was a written contractural agreement at the time of hire, specifying codes of conduct which were to be upheld, then yes, they should be able to fire the teacher.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well for one her right to privacy off the clock.
    She was pregnant before she was married. It is a Christian institution and she was showing before being married. No right was violated. Florida is AGAIN an "at will" state. You can be fired for any reason at any time.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    An employer can no more dictate an individual's diet than they can dictate whom and when they have sex.
    They are not dictating who she has sex with. They are dictating you can't be pregnant before marriage. This is Florida, they could fire her for being a vegetarian if they wanted too. No right would be violated under Florida law, or the Constitution.

    One more time...

    Florida is an "At Will" state. You can be fired for any reason no questions asked.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If there was a written contractural agreement at the time of hire, specifying codes of conduct which were to be upheld, then yes, they should be able to fire the teacher.
    Some contracts are illegal and or not supportable in a court of law.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Some contracts are illegal and or not supportable in a court of law.
    Would that specific type of contract be illegal? If so, then Ross Perot has some 'splainin to do.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Would that specific type of contract be illegal? If so, then Ross Perot has some 'splainin to do.
    LOL my cousin use to date his daughter and Ross Jr. use to live in the house I grew up in.

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