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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Saw the interview with her on the Today show this morning. One thing she said was that she never signed a morality clause. Be interesting to to see how it plays out. If she signed one, she will probably be out of luck. But if she didn't, there will probably be a good chance she will win. I think its gonna all come down to whether she signed something stating that that was a condition of her employment.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Depends on how the morality is instituted. If she signed a statement that she will abide by school policy, and their employee handbook discusses following the religious doctrine of the church......that may be implication enough.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Good question. At this point I think no. It is discrimination. I think that the employment contract that stipulates that would be illegal, and thereby invalid.
    What law prevents it? It's not targeting who she is, but what she does.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Is she on the clock during these meetings?
    Yes.

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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    I'd be curious to know how many of this school's leaders/owners/people in charge had sex before marriage. I'd bet my house AND my car there's more than one.

    Oh, and I'm not too cynical to wonder if the fact that she's a black woman married to a white man had any influence on the school's decision.

    And there's that pesky "christian forgiveness" thing, which this butt-puckered bunch apparently hasn't yet heard of, in spite of the fact that the school "exists to educate and train students to engage their community and world with academics, excellence and CHRIST-LIKE CHARACTER."

    What would Jesus do? Not this, I'm fairly certain.


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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I'd be curious to know how many of this school's leaders/owners/people in charge had sex before marriage. I'd bet my house AND my car there's more than one.

    Oh, and I'm not too cynical to wonder if the fact that she's a black woman married to a white man had any influence on the school's decision.

    And there's that pesky "christian forgiveness" thing, which this butt-puckered bunch apparently hasn't yet heard of, in spite of the fact that the school "exists to educate and train students to engage their community and world with academics, excellence and CHRIST-LIKE CHARACTER."

    What would Jesus do? Not this, I'm fairly certain.

    The school is a joke, I don't think anyone except some extreme right wingers will disagree. But I'm still undecided as to whether what they did should be legal or not.

    On one hand, I'm for businesses making their own decisions (even if they're stupid and hypocritical). But on another, I don't see why a "religious" organization should be allowed to fire people for reasons that a regular company or organization would never get away with (what if Wal-Mart wanted to fire a woman because she got pregnant? What would the reaction be then?)

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    The school is a joke, I don't think anyone except some extreme right wingers will disagree. But I'm still undecided as to whether what they did should be legal or not.

    On one hand, I'm for businesses making their own decisions (even if they're stupid and hypocritical). But on another, I don't see why a "religious" organization should be allowed to fire people for reasons that a regular company or organization would never get away with (what if Wal-Mart wanted to fire a woman because she got pregnant? What would the reaction be then?)
    I agree. A private business may have the legal option to fire people for whatever reason they wish, but there are still Federal Employment Laws that take precedence over the wishes of the employer. I find it difficult to believe that having had sex with one's soon-to-be husband, while not at work, is really an actionable offense.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I'd be curious to know how many of this school's leaders/owners/people in charge had sex before marriage. I'd bet my house AND my car there's more than one.
    And it was also probably before they got hired.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Oh, and I'm not too cynical to wonder if the fact that she's a black woman married to a white man had any influence on the school's decision.
    Now you are going to accuse them of racism. No evidence mind you, just an accusation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    And there's that pesky "christian forgiveness" thing, which this butt-puckered bunch apparently hasn't yet heard of, in spite of the fact that the school "exists to educate and train students to engage their community and world with academics, excellence and CHRIST-LIKE CHARACTER."

    What would Jesus do? Not this, I'm fairly certain.
    And there you have the "What would Jesus do."

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I agree. A private business may have the legal option to fire people for whatever reason they wish, but there are still Federal Employment Laws that take precedence over the wishes of the employer. I find it difficult to believe that having had sex with one's soon-to-be husband, while not at work, is really an actionable offense.
    It is if she agreed to it before hiring or as a stipulation of hiring because it is a private religious institution.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And there you have the "What would Jesus do."

    Forgiveness has nothing to do with accepting responsibility for your actions and punishment.
    Punishment is all fine and well when appropriate. It is not appropriate for an employer to sever employment as a punishment for moral exception he takes to your private life.

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