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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    Privately owned, it's their right. /Thread
    WRONG.

    They are still required to follow federal law. They failed to do so and now their stupid asses will go broke paying for it.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not wrong.

    She was not fired for being pregnant. She was fired for premarital sex which according to the school is a breach of the moral contract she was shown and agreed to upon hiring.

    She surrendered the information freely as well, so no invasion or privacy either.

    As I said the Florida law does not in any way disagree with the Federal laws.
    You are incorrect. The school is incorrect. You should stop defending the actions of some christianazi asshat administrators.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.

    They are still required to follow federal law. They failed to do so and now their stupid asses will go broke paying for it.
    SO you would support Hooters being forced to hire fat chicks and men as waitresses and waiters? Maybe strip clubs that cater to straight men should be forced to hire men as strippers.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    In Florida, employees are presumed to be "at will." At-will employees may be terminated for any reason, so long as it's not illegal. Generally, employees who work under an employment contract can only be terminated for reasons specified in the contract. In Florida, it is very difficult to overcome the at-will presumption.

    Employers are not allowed to terminate or discriminate against employees for the following reasons:

    •Age
    •Race
    •Sex
    •Religion
    •National origin
    •Disability
    •Pregnancy
    It's illegal for an employer to consider these characteristics with regard to:

    •Promotions
    •Job assignments
    •Termination
    •Wages
    And it's illegal for an employer to terminate an employee:
    •For refusing to break a law
    •In retaliation for filing a discrimination or safety claim
    •For taking leave under the Family and Medical Leave Act
    •Without following its own stated procedure or policy
    •For reasons not contained in the employment contract, if one exists

    MyFoxOrlando obtained a letter sent to Hamilton from the school which asked not to return because of "fornication," sex outside of marriage. It also claims that Hamilton knew about the school's moral stance through the employment application process.

    I don’t think she is going to win this as the school did nothing wrong.
    As usual, you're incorrect. People on the right generally have a very hard time understanding the fact that their religious beliefs are not the law. The fallout from this case will be the first of many lessons that lighten their pocketbooks.

    The school fired her for being pregnant. Also .. what she does outside of school hours is not the school's business. They have no right to do what they did and they are going to lose their shirts over it. Their moral code is NOT the law. What that insturctor does in her personal life is NONE OF THE SCHOOL'S BUSINESS.

    The school was wrong and anybody who supports their nazi behavior is wrong.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    As usual, you're incorrect. People on the right generally have a very hard time understanding the fact that their religious beliefs are not the law. The fallout from this case will be the first of many lessons that lighten their pocketbooks.

    The school fired her for being pregnant. Also .. what she does outside of school hours is not the school's business. They have no right to do what they did and they are going to lose their shirts over it. Their moral code is NOT the law. What that insturctor does in her personal life is NONE OF THE SCHOOL'S BUSINESS.

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    Again the school is a private business,she agreed to go by that private business' standards and she is in a at will state so they can fire her for what ever reason they feel,heck they do not even have to supply a reason for her being fired.

    The school was wrong and anybody who supports their nazi behavior is wrong
    Seeing how you think everything is a nazi, I am sure most people will take what you said with a grain of salt. If this forum had a Godwins law award you would be the winner.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again the school is a private business,she agreed to go by that private business' standards and she is in a at will state so they can fire her for what ever reason they feel,heck they do not even have to supply a reason.

    Seeing how you think everything is a nazi, I am sure most people will take what you said with a grain of salt. If this forum had a Godwins law award you would be the winner.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    As usual, you're incorrect. People on the right generally have a very hard time understanding the fact that their religious beliefs are not the law. The fallout from this case will be the first of many lessons that lighten their pocketbooks.

    The school fired her for being pregnant. Also .. what she does outside of school hours is not the school's business. They have no right to do what they did and they are going to lose their shirts over it. Their moral code is NOT the law. What that insturctor does in her personal life is NONE OF THE SCHOOL'S BUSINESS.

    The school was wrong and anybody who supports their nazi behavior is wrong.
    I am no lawyer, but I think she will lose. Her lawyer will charge her a bunch of money and hopefully she can afford it.
    Lawyers will take a case knowing it is unwinnable, seen it done within my own family. Judge threw it out immediately.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I am no lawyer, but I think she will lose. Her lawyer will charge her a bunch of money and hopefully she can afford it.
    Lawyers will take a case knowing it is unwinnable, seen it done within my own family. Judge threw it out immediately.
    Its possible her lawyer thinks she can win,instead of just trying to take her money.We do live in a country were a dumb ass can knowingly put a cup of hot liquid between her legs, burn herself with that liquid and win millions of dollars, we also live a country were manufactures put warning this product contains nuts on a package of peanuts,mixed nuts and peanut butter
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again the school is a private business,she agreed to go by that private business' standards and she is in a at will state so they can fire her for what ever reason they feel,heck they do not even have to supply a reason for her being fired.
    Here's the crux right now...we don't really know what she agreed to as we don't know what documentation was provided to her that might have affirmed or dispelled the "at will" protection of the employer. There are a handful of other issues that would come into play in a situation so clouded by religious morality being a term of employment such as the application of the same standard being applied to every employee, whether the employer's "hands were clean" in the firing, etc.

    Also, we need to know what the employer's stated reason for the firing was. If it crossed the boundaries of enforcing a religious morality in their stated disciplinary documentation, there's an issue there.

    It's true...they could fire her because they don't like the color of her shoes one day. That's not protected. However, if it is proven that they fired her for one of the protected pretextual reasons covered under Federal law, then there will be damages. I can almost guarantee that in today's climate of mistrust of religion and it's associated injustices that there will be a move to settle by the employer rather than suffer a PR nightmare for pursuing this to the highest courts. If they do decide to pursue a zealous defense of the "at will" employment agreement in this case, it will make it to the SCotUS and become a high profile case that will alter the playing field forever...for one side of the argument or the other.

    My chips are down for this woman, not because I think she is right (although she has a legitimate gripe) but because I understand the state of society when it comes to issues like this.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    I think she got fired so the school wouldn't have to fund her maternity leave....
    Haven't we all seen someone use their medical benefits too much and then get fired?
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