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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You debunked nothing. The words of Christ trump anything else you find in the bible that say otherwise.
    Did you even bother to read what I posted? Who words do you think I used?

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    How can you debunk actual words of Christ? Lots of religious fanatics ignore the actual words of Christ in favor of some obscure writer in the OT or for what Paul has to say.
    Again I pointed out your misunderstanding of scripture using Christ’s own words and the backing of most other theologians who agree.

    I guess they are just fanatics as well?

    I guess Paul was also just a fanatic? Although I did not mention him at all anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    They are more Paulist than Christian.
    This whole thread is about judging the administration for how they judged the teacher, as in " judge not lest ye be judged".
    No.

    This thread is about an Christian organization that says they fired an employee for disobeying the moral clause of the institution. It is about an employee who says she was fired because she was pregnant.

    It has nothing to do with the exaggerations and misunderstanding flowing from your wellspring.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Did you even bother to read what I posted? Who words do you think I used?



    Again I pointed out your misunderstanding of scripture using Christís own words and the backing of most other theologians who agree.

    I guess they are just fanatics as well?

    I guess Paul was also just a fanatic? Although I did not mention him at all anyway.



    No.

    This thread is about an Christian organization that says they fired an employee for disobeying the moral clause of the institution. It is about an employee who says she was fired because she was pregnant.

    It has nothing to do with the exaggerations and misunderstanding flowing from your wellspring.
    Yeah, I read your rants. What expertise do you have about the Bible anyway? Why is YOUR interpretation better than any other?
    I don't disagree that they may have the right to fire her, but they shouldn't be calling themselves a christian organization if they go against the teachings of Christ.
    Damn hypocrites are everywhere....
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yeah, I read your rants. What expertise do you have about the Bible anyway? Why is YOUR interpretation better than any other?
    In this case it is not my interpretation. It is the agreed upon interpretation by most theologians.

    These opponents have a commendable zeal for righteousness, but theirs is a shallow righteousness that shows no concern for the soul of this woman. They are also being rather deceitful. There is no evidence that this law was carried out with any regularity, so they are raising a question in the name of loyalty to Moses, using a part of Moses' teaching that they themselves most likely have not kept. Furthermore, since the law says both the man and the woman who commit adultery are to be killed, we are left wondering why the man was not brought in as well. It may be that he had escaped, but the fact that only the woman is brought raises suspicions and does not speak well of their zeal for the law of Moses; for if they were really committed, they would have brought the man as well. Indeed, the law makes it clear that stoning could only take place after a careful trial, which included the chance for the condemned to confess his or her wrong (m. Sanhedrin 6:1-4). The hypocrisy of the opponents is evident. - John 7 Commentary - Jesus Forgives a Woman Taken in Adultery - BibleGateway.com

    You should read the whole thing. It could help in your understanding.

    Unless you think they are fanatics as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I don't disagree that they may have the right to fire her, but they shouldn't be calling themselves a christian organization if they go against the teachings of Christ.
    Damn hypocrites are everywhere....
    You must cast the board out of your own eye, before telling them about the sliver in theirs.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    In this case it is not my interpretation. It is the agreed upon interpretation by most theologians.

    These opponents have a commendable zeal for righteousness, but theirs is a shallow righteousness that shows no concern for the soul of this woman. They are also being rather deceitful. There is no evidence that this law was carried out with any regularity, so they are raising a question in the name of loyalty to Moses, using a part of Moses' teaching that they themselves most likely have not kept. Furthermore, since the law says both the man and the woman who commit adultery are to be killed, we are left wondering why the man was not brought in as well. It may be that he had escaped, but the fact that only the woman is brought raises suspicions and does not speak well of their zeal for the law of Moses; for if they were really committed, they would have brought the man as well. Indeed, the law makes it clear that stoning could only take place after a careful trial, which included the chance for the condemned to confess his or her wrong (m. Sanhedrin 6:1-4). The hypocrisy of the opponents is evident. - John 7 Commentary - Jesus Forgives a Woman Taken in Adultery - BibleGateway.com

    You should read the whole thing. It could help in your understanding.

    Unless you think they are fanatics as well?



    You must cast the board out of your own eye, before telling them about the sliver in theirs.
    Theologians? We don't need no stinking theologians to interpret the bible! NO MAN comes unto the father but by me, so says Christ....No preacher or priest can do it.
    Bible study in some churches is self inflicted brain washing...
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Theologians? We don't need no stinking theologians to interpret the bible! NO MAN comes unto the father but by me, so says Christ....No preacher or priest can do it.
    Bible study in some churches is self inflicted brain washing...
    Who said they interpret it for anyone else? I said they all agree as do I with the general interpretation.

    Then again you know more about it than people who have studied it all their life, so what the heck do we plebes know anyway?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Who said they interpret it for anyone else? I said they all agree as do I with the general interpretation.

    Then again you know more about it than people who have studied it all their life, so what the heck do we plebes know anyway?
    No, I don't know a lot, because I don't sweat the small stuff that theologians dwell on. IMO, the OT has no direct input for determining salvation for Christians, and only parts of the NT. If we can't live what is taught in the 4 gospels, we are wasting time on the rest of the bible.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    No, I don't know a lot, because I don't sweat the small stuff that theologians dwell on. IMO, the OT has no direct input for determining salvation for Christians, and only parts of the NT. If we can't live what is taught in the 4 gospels, we are wasting time on the rest of the bible.
    What does the OT have to do with anything I have said?

    We are done here.

    Good night and God bless.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    What does the OT have to do with anything I have said?

    We are done here.

    Good night and God bless.
    IMO, little or nothing, but most christian churches use it a lot considering the primary teachings related to Christianity are in the NT....
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its a private business so yes they should be able to fire anyone who does something that does not line up with their beliefs.
    Wrong. The right has always had a serious problem keeping their religious beliefs and morals out of politics.

    This school is going to lose and go broke paying damages.

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