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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think they have the right to do so. If their goal is to educate children with a Christian education then they should be able to fire workers for having affairs and other things. My university does this, it's affiliated with a Christian denomination and faculty who break rules (like having affairs) are fired. They agree to those terms when they take the job.

    The lady was getting married.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    I fully support the separation of church and state. This separation works both ways, for as much as I detest religion's intrusion into public schools, and into secular society, so too do I realize that the state should refrain from getting involved in church matters unless such are in blatant violation of the law. If any particular particular school receives public funding, then one set of standards applies. If it doesn't, then another.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The lady was getting married.
    That still doesn't make it right. Premarital sex is premarital sex even if someone is engaged. As a Christian school I'm sure they want to represent Christ and not have faculty that sleep around and do things that are considered sins by their denomination. It would be like an Islamic school firing a teacher for converting to Christianity. They have the right to do so sense they want Muslims teachers teaching at an Islamic school.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That still doesn't make it right. Premarital sex is premarital sex even if someone is engaged. As a Christian school I'm sure they want to represent Christ and not have faculty that sleep around and do things that are considered sins by their denomination. It would be like an Islamic school firing a teacher for converting to Christianity. They have the right to do so sense they want Muslims teachers teaching at an Islamic school.
    I see it as a conflict btwn individual rights and a business' rights for me individual rights almost always win out. The lady in question was doing nothing intentionally to harm the school. I also see your view very short sighted. A school that adheres so strictly to such rules could lose a great math teacher that students actually learn from. This is also a disservice to the students.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Sorry but individual rights trump a business' rights IMHO. After all individual rights are what makes this a great nation.
    The business owners are individuals too. You do not stop being a person or an individual just because you own a business. Besides that the lady in question does not own the school and she signed on to adhere to the school standards when she got employed there. Should Hooters be forced to hire fat flat chested fat women and men to waitresses and waiters?
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I see it as a conflict btwn individual rights and a business' rights for me individual rights almost always win out. The lady in question was doing nothing intentionally to harm the school. I also see your view very short sighted. A school that adheres so strictly to such rules could lose a great math teacher that students actually learn from. This is also a disservice to the students.
    But the individual chose to accept the terms of employment. Policy is policy and the woman violated what she agreed to. How is my opinion short sighted? As an individual she exercised her right to agree with her employers code of conduct. She violated that code and her employment was terminated. Some places require a dress code or a uniform, is it wrong to fire employees for breaking company policy in regards to dress codes? I don't see it as a violation of individual rights because as an individual she agrees to those employment terms.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I see it as a conflict btwn individual rights and a business' rights for me individual rights almost always win out. The lady in question was doing nothing intentionally to harm the school. I also see your view very short sighted. A school that adheres so strictly to such rules could lose a great math teacher that students actually learn from. This is also a disservice to the students.
    No individual has a right to be employed by any specific employer. Being fired doesn't violate any rights.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    But the individual chose to accept the terms of employment. Policy is policy and the woman violated what she agreed to.
    And some terms of employment are blatantly a violation of individual rights. Say a term for employment was one could only eat cheesecake on Tuesday. That is a violation of rights and this this ladies rights were violated.

    How is my opinion short sighted?
    Like I said the school might have lost one of their best teachers.
    Some places require a dress code or a uniform, is it wrong to fire employees for breaking company policy in regards to dress codes?
    That is on duty and well within the business' right. Off duty one can what ever the heck they want to.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No individual has a right to be employed by any specific employer. Being fired doesn't violate any rights.
    I did not say being fired in and of its self was a violation of her rights. I'm saying the reason she was fired was a violation of her rights.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I did not say being fired in and of its self was a violation of her rights. I'm saying the reason she was fired was a violation of her rights.
    It was not a violation of her rights. No one has a right to a job.

    Again Florida is an "at will" state. They can fire you for any reason at any time, period.
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