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  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    40 41.24%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    4 4.12%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    22 22.68%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    3 3.09%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    3 3.09%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    11 11.34%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    8 8.25%
  • Other response

    6 6.19%
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Ah, but they had no visible evidence in the form of a pregnancy!
    But that's not really my point. Course, you're kidding.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, it's not.

    Those tidbits of info only show that it is illegal to treat a woman differently from another employee because of pregnancy.

    As has been stated, this woman was fired because her application for maternity leave clued in the school staff to her potential premarital sexual acts - They asked her about such, and she informed them that she had, indeed, had premarital sex...Whereupon they fired her.

    Obviously, this action does not fall under the quoted laws, as nowhere in those laws (as you posted) does it list "discrimination because of sexual acts" as an unacceptable reason for employee termination.

    Perfectly legal, if unreasonable in my book.

    As an example, it would also be legal for them to fire this woman if she was not pregnant - But they learned of her premarital sex.
    Pregnancy Discrimination
    Pregnancy discrimination involves treating a woman (an applicant or employee) unfavorably because of pregnancy, childbirth, or a medical condition related to pregnancy or childbirth.


    Firing her is treating her unfavorably... is it not? It would have been legal if she had not been pregnant, she has a loophole since she is pregnant. The fact that she is pregnant is what makes it isllegal. It is right there in plain english. Agreed, if she was not pregnant, she would have no case.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    But that's not really my point. Course, you're kidding.
    My point is that, it's a shame that they have to pick on a poor pregnant woman, who slipped up and got pregnant while engaged, chose not to abort, and is probably just about as good a Christian as they come. I believe they have the right to be Pharisaical hypocrites of the first order, but I think they are assholes.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    She wasn't fired for being pregnant. She was fired for having pre-marital sex. That's like saying that because the police arrest a man who fits the description of a known murderer, he's being arrested for being a 6'3" White guy with a 1967 Oldsmobile. The pregnancy was used as evidence that she did something that went against their rules, not the grounds for dismissal.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    She wasn't fired for being pregnant. She was fired for having pre-marital sex.
    Doesn't matter... the two cannot be unlinked.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    I bet the virgin Mary would REALLY have been run outta town on a rail.

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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Doesn't matter... the two cannot be unlinked.
    No they can. Firing someone because they got pregnant is illegal. Firing someone because they had sex which happened to result in pregnancy is legal. What if she hadn't gotten pregnant, and the school found out through other means; would it be legal then?
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nope... Wrong.

    I gave you the website and link to the federal laws prohibiting this injustice, but here it is a little more specifically for you.

    The Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978

    The terms 'because of sex' or 'on the basis of sex' include, but are not limited to, because of or on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions; and women affected by pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions shall be treated the same for all employment-related purposes, including receipt of benefits under fringe benefit programs, as other persons not so affected but similar in their ability or inability to work, and nothing in section 703(h) of this title shall be interpreted to permit otherwise.


    The Pregnancy Discrimination Act

    Pregnancy Discrimination
    Pregnancy discrimination involves treating a woman (an applicant or employee) unfavorably because of pregnancy, childbirth, or a medical condition related to pregnancy or childbirth.

    Pregnancy Discrimination & Work SituationsThe law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, such as leave and health insurance, and any other term or condition of employment.


    Pregnancy Discrimination

    Bodhisattva, she was not fired for being pregnant or anything related to pregnancy. She was fired for breaking the schools moral code. A code she agreed to upon hiring.

    None of the laws stated apply in any way.

    Even if she had not been pregnant and admitted to premarital sex, she would have been fired.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    But the thing is that they most surely violated that same moral code themselves.
    Maybe, but speculation is just that.
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    Re: Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Bodhisattva, she was not fired for being pregnant or anything related to pregnancy. She was fired for breaking the schools moral code. A code she agreed to upon hiring.

    None of the laws stated apply in any way.

    Even if she had not been pregnant and admitted to premarital sex, she would have been fired.
    They can say that she was fired for any reason, the result is the same. She was fired when she was pregnant, and that violates the Federal Law. End of story. *shrugs*
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