Montel Williams Wants Mexico To Be Our 51st State

Blackdog said:

Not exactly for or against. I do lean more against it though. I just don't think they would assimilate well.

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This looks like a job for El Borgo!!! :2razz:

Sorrr, whenever I see the word "assimilate" I think of Staro Treko.

Mexico should be made into a US occupied territory. We suffer from their drug cartels, illegal immigrants, and a hoard of other problems that are birth in Mexico and dealt with horribly by the Mexican government. (please note that I don't actually advocate making Mexico a US occupied territory nor do I support any war with them).

Tucker Case said:

This looks like a job for El Borgo!!! :2razz:

Sorrr, whenever I see the word "assimilate" I think of Staro Treko.

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+2 For Borg reference! :mrgreen:

Korimyr the Rat said:

Mexicans are not Americans.

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I get what you're saying, but technically they're not only Americans, but they were here first as well. I agree that they do not have the same culture as those of us in the United States, but that's changing rapidly as well. Our demography is playing a major role in that, and I believe we are far more alike than we are different.

Not only will they not allow themselves to be annexed peacefully-- does Mr. Williams, whom I respect, advocate seizing their country by force?--

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Maybe they do and maybe they don't. I don't know that most Mexicans would be opposed to a unification with the United States.

but they are not culturally prepared to function as American citizens.

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lolwut?

Seriously, what do you mean?

I'd point out that most of Louisianna and arguably all of Texas is also not prepared to function as part of the United States. That never stopped us before.

This is a major part of the problem with illegal immigration in the first place; Mexicans are not Americans and do not respect the American government or American law.

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I disagree, and I think your comment discounts the idea that they come here for a better life for themselves and their families, just as we would do if roles were reversed. They're not doing it out of hostility or disrespect, they're doing it out of necessity.

They are their own nation with their own government and their own laws, and unless we are prepared to engage in naked imperialism and wage a war of aggression against a sovereign state for the purpose of annexing its territory, they will never be Americans.

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We're not going to invade Mexico. It would have to be done by way of a vote by both entities, I'm sure.

We're not going to bomb Tijuana. Wow.

I agree with his point regarding the legalization of cannabis. The only effective way to combat the drug cartels, short of overwhelming military force, is to cut them off at the knees financially.

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Or give the people a better way to earn a living. That way they don't have to break the law to have a decent shot in life. Oddly, most people will chose the productive option - if such an option exists.

Ironically enough, the same is true in the United States and in our big cities. As the economy declines, crime rises. As education declines, crime rises. This has been known for decades and isn't a secret. It's not rocket science. People don't break the law because they think it's fun. They do it because sometimes it's the only reasonable option.

Granted, there are some people that are just plain thugs - but if legitimate economic prosperity were a realistic option, very few people would choose to break the law simply for the sake of breaking the law.

The US government cant handle ****. I honestly think they have trouble on such basic levels of normal function that they couldn't literally handle **** if they wanted to. We could NEVER be able to handle mexico, it would be better to just put it out of its misery via vast napalm than to take it under our wing.