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Thread: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Exactly, it seems perfectly acceptable to a lot of people to talk down about Southerners/rural people and they do it so openly.
    Why not everyone else?

    The way I understand it is that in New England states, it's pretty common for people of Southern Heritage to be discriminated against.
    While they are accepted as neighbors when they all flee down here.

    Then they turn around and take over the local newspaper and write front page article pretty much "dissing" sweet tea.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    There seems to be some confusion about this word. I tend to use it to refer to a culture, where others seem to want to use it to refer to a race.
    Cultural.
    It was a term that Southern whites invented to refer to other whites of lower social classes (ie, those who worked in the fields and got sunburns on the backs of their necks) and it was already in use before the Civil War, although I don't know the exact year it came into popular usage.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Cultural.
    It was a term that Southern whites invented to refer to other whites of lower social classes (ie, those who worked in the fields and got sunburns on the backs of their necks) and it was already in use before the Civil War, although I don't know the exact year it came into popular usage.
    While your historical analysis of the term is both correct and appretiated,

    We are talking about its current use.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    1069 is correct about it's origin and original meaning. Basically it referred to working-class Southerners, particularly farmers, and was originally a pejorative implying poverty and ignorance.

    It's useful to know how the term originated, because a lot of people use it in a very similar way in modern times. It implies someone who is a low-class, low-paid, uneducated laborer, particularly if they are rural.

    In modern times many rural Southerners have taken up the term and used it as a label of pride. WE know that those who think we are poor, bigoted, ignorant and uneduated wretches with five teeth, THEY are the ignorant ones. They're speaking of things they have no knowlege of.

    In modern times, a perfectly reasonable proportion of rural white Southerners go to college... yes, even a lot of farmers who intend to stay farmers. Running a modern farm is not something that a brainless ignoramus is going to succeed at, it has become a complex venture that is heavily mechanized and requires careful business management.

    Nor are we unsophisticated bigots. I'd say that a larger proportion of rural southern whites get along just fine with their black neighbors, and I base that on personal experience.

    The ignorant wretches who can't hold down a job and whose highest ambition is a twelve-pack on Saturday night, we refer to as white trash.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    If memory serves me, the original rednecks were miners who wore red bandanas around their necks.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post


    The ignorant wretches who can't hold down a job and whose highest ambition is a twelve-pack on Saturday night, we refer to as white trash.
    EXACTLY! And they seem to be proliferating rapidly.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    The term redneck isn't a racial slur. It's a cultural reference. It's a term some people even use as a badge of pride. I live in Georgia, and I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone call someone a redneck, and have them reply "Damn straight!"

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The term redneck isn't a racial slur. It's a cultural reference. It's a term some people even use as a badge of pride. I live in Georgia, and I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone call someone a redneck, and have them reply "Damn straight!"
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    I give y'all,

    A white redneck,



    A fat redneck,



    A redneck-ass-nig**,



    A chinky-ass-redneck,



    And finally, a nasty-ass-redneck.



    It is clearly a culture thang.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Redneck is clearly a cultural slur. I mean is anyone seriously going to tell me Jeff Foxworthy is a racist because of his "you know you're a redneck ..." jokes? Redneck is used to refer to blue collar, working class whites - usually ones with Southern or rural origins. It's used generally used as a slur, but I know plenty of Southerners who are proud to call themselves rednecks.

    Anyone trying to argue redneck is a racial slur is simply trying to stir the pot and play the part of a faux victim of racisim. That said, it doesn't mean it should be an acceptable to slur an entire culture anymore than it should be acceptable to slur an entire race. I personally don't object to using the term redneck or white trash towards the truly ignorant and worthless. And I love a good redneck joke (just like I love a good joke at anyone's expense) But labeling everyone from a certain geographic region (or everyone with a certain political view as some folks tend to do around here) with the slur isn't cool.

    As Harry Guerilla said, the one thing it is handy for in those cases is making it easy to point out the intolerant a-holes.
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