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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    If its a well know fact show me numbers.

    And the main cause of the Civil war was slavery. It was slavery that divided the country, and it was slavery that caused the Civil War. And please don't give me that states rights bullcrap, the only reason the southern states wanted states rights is so they could keep their slaves.
    ..........and their Economy...... and their money from unfair tarriffs.

    Sad your a southerner and don't know this.
    Did you grow up in the South?
    If so, was it Atlanta? They probable teach the northern indoctrization of what the civil war was in Atlanta.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The context of the word changes depending on who the speaker is. .
    No it doesn't. The context is how the person is using a word not what race the person is.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    If I, as an English-speaking resident of the United States, asked you about the "white" accent or dialect, this question would be nonsensical; the speech patterns of white U.S. residents vary according to region. You'd presumably understand the "black" U.S. dialect as a reference to African-American Vernacular English, or "ebonics," sometimes termed "bad English" even as deviant white dialects are left unmolested.

    But the point is that few people would understand reference to "white" speech as reference to the specific dialect of rural Southerners, associated with rednecks and hillbillies, whereas most people would understand reference to "black" speech as reference to the "urban" dialect of the hood. The "ghetto" stereotype is more commonly associated with blacks as a whole than the "redneck" stereotype is with whites as a whole, and also plays a more critical role in policy issues, since it's more widespread.
    I've seen many black comedians use the "white guy voice". They all sounds similar, it sounds like Urkel.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post

    You can see the same foundations of white populism in Caine's posts, for example.


    Are you implying im some kind of racist?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I've seen many black comedians use the "white guy voice". They all sounds similar, it sounds like Urkel.

    I've seen a couple of black comedians interpret it as combination lawyer-game-show-host kind of thing.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Even if it is use primarily against white people. Do you feel that the aim of the insult is against their race or culture?
    I've heard the term originally described someone who worked in the sun thereby getting a neck sunburn. Whatever the origin, when I am called a redneck, I always say "Thank you" and mean it.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No it doesn't. The context is how the person is using a word not what race the person is.
    When communicating, you must take into account who your audience is and how it will be received.

    Of course no one gets upset when white people call each other crackers. It's obviously not an insult. If a black guy you don't know calls you a cracker you are going to wonder why he is at best, being rude, or at worst, being downright disrespectful.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And the main cause of the Civil war was slavery. It was slavery that divided the country, and it was slavery that caused the Civil War. And please don't give me that states rights bullcrap, the only reason the southern states wanted states rights is so they could keep their slaves.
    Lincoln wasn't able to win enough support for going to war with the southern states until he made it about slavery -- and he did try, because in his mind the matter at hand was the authority of the Federal government and national unity.

    "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union."

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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The context of the word changes depending on who the speaker is. I would say that both of them are being ghetto.

    I know you are going to say that is racist. If it were in a vacuum it would be. Black people aren't going to forget the history of their status in this country. Things are better now, some say that things are equal, some still say that there is progress to be had. There are still people alive who experienced institutional racism. They tell the younger generation about these tails and it gives them a different perspective. These feelings take time to deplete. They have a half-life so to speak.
    The point Im trying to make is that society excuses racism coming from Minorities as "they've earned such a right" while cramming equality down our throats which is a clearly contradicting viewpoint.

    If we want to be equal, we ALL need to be discouraged from using potentially discriminatory language. That goes for ALL sides of the equation.

    A rectangle is not equal on all sides. Shouldn't "equality" be shaped more like a square?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I've seen a couple of black comedians interpret it as combination lawyer-game-show-host kind of thing.
    I like Dave Chappelle's. He also wears a blond wig and paints his face white when he does it.
    It's bloody hilarious!


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