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Thread: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    All I can say is, if you're brown, I hope you never visit the all-white town of Vider, Texas. Especially not after dark.

    There is plenty of systematic racial discrimination going on in plenty of isolated pockets all over the south.
    Less in the large cities, more in rural areas and small towns.
    You've identified the problem, it is isolated.

    Now we understand that the majority of people don't hold those views and that to constantly berate a group of people for the past mistakes of their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc is non productive for moving forward with racial tolerance.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Redneck originally referred to southern white farmers working in the sun, getting the back of their neck burned.

    Now it has many connotations - white trash, trailer trash, unsophisticated southern whites, uneducated poor whites. It's both a class distinction--lower income whites mostly south and southwest, and a derogatory term for the south.

    It's also associated (in an overgeneralized way) with bigotry.
    The first documented use of the term was in West Virginia, during the coal mine strikes in the 20's.

    I don't care what anyone thinks, it's a racial slur and until all racism is eradicated, racism will always exist. Trust me, you Leftists aren't making any friends by condoning this kind of language towards whites.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    But "Southern" isn't a race. It's a geographically-based culture and is, in and of its self, multi-racial. So "redneck" can't be a racist term.

    So, in a way, you've proven my point.
    Anytime "Redneck" is used to describe someone who isn't white, there is a qualifier to inform the listener that you are not referring to a white person.

    He was a Black redneck, a Spanish Redneck.

    It is most definitely a reference to white people unless the qualifier is added.
    Like calling a person a "whigger", the term is derived from "nigger" but is in reference to a white person.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    All I can say is, if you're brown, I hope you never visit the all-white town of Vider, Texas. Especially not after dark.
    I was in Vider last week and saw all kinds of brown people, even after dark.

    There is plenty of systematic racial discrimination- and systematically condoned racial violence- going on in plenty of isolated pockets all over the south.
    Less in the large cities, more in rural areas and small towns.
    There's no less racism in cities than there is in rural areas. That hasn't been my observation, anyway. When I was in the service, the most racist soldiers were from places like Chicago, New York, Detroit and L.A.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So it's ok to make broad based insulting remarks because some people wave confederate flags?
    Of course the majority of us "Rednecks" have never and will never use race as a way to discriminate against people and that the majority of us were never involved in violent segregation policies.

    By all means though, if you can't let go of the past, it will show me that the truly ignorant hold a grudge against people who didn't do anything and they do it for decades.
    But why do those waving the flag keep waving it when people say, "I find that offensive."

    You can't claim to be offended at "redneck" when you keep putting a symbol that represents racism to many people in front of their faces even as you say it's not racist.

    You're doing the same thing as The_Patriot. You're claiming that you get to define all words and symbols your way and everyone else be damned.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    its obviously a race, rednecks are genetically inferior to normal people
    Before you go so far as to make that claim, you must remember that the southern states--that is, the former Confederate states--have carried the load in every war this country has ever fought. So, ultimately, you owe southerners your freedom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    But "Southern" isn't a race. It's a geographically-based culture and is, in and of its self, multi-racial. So "redneck" can't be a racist term.

    So, in a way, you've proven my point.
    Post documentation where someone used redneck to refer to someone who isn't white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Nowhere does it say we have a right to not be offended.

    I hear and see things that offend me every damn day. Mostly I walk on and go on about my business.

    In another thread, a month or two ago, I explained in detail why many Southerners view the Stars and Bars as a symbol of regional and cultural pride, and not as a symbol of racism (let alone slavery). I won't go into all that again, look it up if you like.

    Yes, I'm aware that many people choose to view it as a symbol of racism. That would be why I don't usually fly it myself, but I support the right of any Southerner who is flying it as a symbol of heritage, not hate, to do so.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Before you go so far as to make that claim, you must remember that the southern states--that is, the former Confederate states--have carried the load in every war this country has ever fought. So, ultimately, you owe southerners your freedom.
    Got any proof to your hyperbole?

    Oh, and in 1861 those states didn't want any American to have freedom.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Post documentation where someone used redneck to refer to someone who isn't white.
    Amazon.com: Black Rednecks and White Liberals (9781594030864): Thomas Sowell: Books

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