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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Oh I realize this, but in the major cities and rural areas of the south it was done under gun point with federal troops in the 1950's. It didn't occur fully until the 1970's in the north. That was my entire point about making the south pay for leaving the Union, while ignoring the racist past of non-southern states. It ties in nicely on why redneck is perfectly acceptable as a bigoted remark while all others are off-limits.
    You see no irony from your complaint and the fact that your avatar has a Confederate symbol in it, yet you call yourself The Patriot?

    You have your interpretation of what the Confederate flag means and obviously don't care what others think. But you expect people to accept your definition of redneck as a racist term.

    Why do YOU get to define everything for everyone? Why do we have to accept that your flag doesn't represent racism and treason and is anti-American and we also have to accept that "redneck" is a racist term. Where is it written that you get to define all social symbols for everyone?

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Redneck originally referred to southern white farmers working in the sun, getting the back of their neck burned.

    Now it has many connotations - white trash, trailer trash, unsophisticated southern whites, uneducated poor whites. It's both a class distinction--lower income whites mostly south and southwest, and a derogatory term for the south.

    It's also associated (in an overgeneralized way) with bigotry.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Redneck originally referred to southern white farmers working in the sun, getting the back of their neck burned.

    Now it has many connotations - white trash, trailer trash, unsophisticated southern whites, uneducated poor whites. It's both a class distinction--lower income whites mostly south and southwest, and a derogatory term for the south.

    It's also associated (in an overgeneralized way) with bigotry.
    I personally have never heard the term used- by anyone, of any race- to describe all whites of every social class.
    I have heard the term "nigger" used to describe all blacks, though, from the President of the United States on down.

    Ergo, i do not believe it's a racist term, but a classist one.
    It's used to describe poor whites, uneducated whites, and sometimes southern whites (who are assumed, in this scenario, to be uniformly poor and uneducated).
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Since this topic started over a comment I made, I think you also should know that I got the phrase "red neckitude" from an episode of King of Hill where Dale builds a 39 ft tower, since 40ft would violate zoning laws, which later collapses into Kahn's front yard where he then calls a cop to arrest Dale for "reckless red neckitude."
    From what I read you made the comment in jest, so I have no problem.

    The reason I jumped on this is because a lot of people, generally, use the term as a way to snipe southern people in a bigoted way.

    It's a thinly veiled attempt by, some people, to be intolerant of others based on factors outside of their control.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    From what I read you made the comment in jest, so I have no problem.

    The reason I jumped on this is because a lot of people, generally, use the term as a way to snipe southern people in a bigoted way.

    It's a thinly veiled attempt by, some people, to be intolerant of others based on factors outside of their control.
    I have no problem "being intolerant" of people who wave confederate flags around in my face.
    The south has a recent history that it's hurtful to me to be reminded of. And I'm not even black.
    Thank God, because if I were, I doubt I'd be able to contain my rage.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yep it's true. Granted it mainly happens in very rural towns where they can go under the radar of most people. But it does become a story every now and then. I remember a few years back they integrated the prom at another school that had segregated proms, and some people got all angry about it, and basically everyone was amazed that people cared so much about them being seperate. It's amazing how progressive Atlanta is, and how ass backwards the country can be.
    Except of course that doesn't happen often at all.
    It is a rare exception.

    Should I use time I was denied service at a restaurant in Atlanta as an example of the whole city being prejudiced against white people?
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I have no problem "being intolerant" of people who wave confederate flags around in my face.
    The south has a recent history that it's hurtful to me to be reminded of. And I'm not even black.
    Thank God, because if I were, I doubt I'd be able to contain my rage.
    So it's ok to make broad based insulting remarks because some people wave confederate flags?
    Of course the majority of us "Rednecks" have never and will never use race as a way to discriminate against people and that the majority of us were never involved in violent segregation policies.

    By all means though, if you can't let go of the past, it will show me that the truly ignorant hold a grudge against people who didn't do anything and they do it for decades.
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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Except of course that doesn't happen often at all.
    It is a rare exception.

    Should I use time I was denied service at a restaurant in Atlanta as an example of the whole city being prejudiced against white people?
    All I can say is, if you're brown, I hope you never visit the all-white town of Vider, Texas. Especially not after dark.

    There is plenty of systematic racial discrimination- and systematically condoned racial violence- going on in plenty of isolated pockets all over the south.
    Less in the large cities, more in rural areas and small towns.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So it's ok to make broad based insulting remarks because some people wave confederate flags?
    Of course the majority of us "Rednecks" have never and will never use race as a way to discriminate against people and that the majority of us were never involved in violent segregation policies.

    By all means though, if you can't let go of the past, it will show me that the truly ignorant hold a grudge against people who didn't do anything and they do it for decades.
    IMO people who wave the Confederate flag are no better than people who display the Nazi swastika in a place of honor.

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    Re: Does the term redneck refer to a culture or race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    From what I read you made the comment in jest, so I have no problem.

    The reason I jumped on this is because a lot of people, generally, use the term as a way to snipe southern people in a bigoted way.

    It's a thinly veiled attempt by, some people, to be intolerant of others based on factors outside of their control.
    But "Southern" isn't a race. It's a geographically-based culture and is, in and of its self, multi-racial. So "redneck" can't be a racist term.

    So, in a way, you've proven my point.

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