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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    I would disagree she has not had her share of the spotlight(the polls you link, less than 10 % had not heard of her), and while her unfavorable is only in the 50 % range, her favorable is under 40 %. By contrast, Obama's unfavorable is down around 40, favorable around 50,and his poll numbers are considered bad.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would disagree she has not had her share of the spotlight(the polls you link, less than 10 % had not heard of her), and while her unfavorable is only in the 50 % range, her favorable is under 40 %.
    But if you're campaigning AGAINST her, her unfavorable ratings are what matter. A disapproval in the 40-50% range is hardly enough to mount an effective campaign against her in far-off districts where she isn't even on the ballot. And again, this doesn't measure the intensity of disapproval.

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    By contrast, Obama's unfavorable is down around 40, favorable around 50,and his poll numbers are considered bad.
    Obama's numbers in the latest RCP average are 47% approval and 46% disapproval, making his disapproval about the same as Pelosi's. And I wouldn't say that those numbers are particularly bad. Nothing spectacular, but hardly in Bush territory.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    From what I've gathered, a crucial crux of the Republicans strategy to win back the house is to try to link Democratic candidates with Nancy Pelosi and essentially run against Pelosi. Excluding the candidate in Pelosi's district of course, do you think this strategy is a good idea for the Republicans?
    I imagine it worked for democrats who ran ran against Bush, so obviously running against Pelosi would work and is a good stratagy.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Sure run on the issues but make Pelosi the face of negavity for those issues. The same way Obama campaigned on "Not Bush" - all things were blamed. Make the same issue here - run on issues but make her the bad guy and pound the hell out of her. Should be pretty easy I mean, it's not like she's a moderate nice-nice person here. She's an absolute **** and some well done television ads and Republican talking points should do it. Course it won't work in her district which is full of loons but it'll work to depose her from Speaker which is the goal.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    From what I've gathered, a crucial crux of the Republicans strategy to win back the house is to try to link Democratic candidates with Nancy Pelosi and essentially run against Pelosi. Excluding the candidate in Pelosi's district of course, do you think this strategy is a good idea for the Republicans?
    I think it could work, but it depends where and how.

    I think just invoking the name could potentially help Republicans maintain districts they already have. But that's not what this seems to be focusing on asking about, but rather wanting to know about seats that are up for grabs that its being used for.

    I think this strategy can work for House seats IF they tie it to issues and tie it to the notion that the House Democrats have been voting lock step with Nancy and thus while they may not actually BE Nancy Pelosi, they may as well be. Essentially attempt to use the 2006 strategy in regards to painting any Republican that voted for something Bush wanted as essentially being George Bush.

    As such, this is going to work best if they do it when going up against incumbants. For example someone could take an encumbants voting record and highlight the major issues that they voted in favor of right along side Pelosi. They could show, instead of what we often see which is "how often they vote with democrats", a stat showing "How often they vote with Pelosi". If someone's trotting out a number that "On 95% of the issues, on things such as health care, cap and trade, trap, and bailouts, [representitive x] voted in line with Nancy Pelosi" its going to be hard to play out the "I'm not Nancy" game and I think could very easily resonate.

    It will be harder to do with non-incumbants attempting to take Republican seats, or where a new person is going to be running, but still possibl by looking at their views on things and comparing it.

    It also can help in regards to any politician that, for example, was saying they would vote against health care...or did...and then seemingly swapped their vote, allowing republicans to point at the Big Dog in the House as the person responsable and able to have such sway over the representitive that they could cause them to swing the vote over to her for the sake of power.

    Could it be bumbled and handled poorly? Absolutely. But I do think its something that could have a strong possability of helping Republicans in toss up districts if done right.

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    In regards to the unfavorables.

    I think individuals in their district makes unfavorables important. I think individual lowly representitives make unfavorables important if you bring them up nationally.

    I think Nancy Pelosi is the "face" of the House, and as such its not necessarily running against her directly but running against her as the very face and definition of the House, thus their unfavorable rating is what matters more.

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I imagine it worked for democrats who ran ran against Bush, so obviously running against Pelosi would work and is a good stratagy.
    I see it as a very different situation; Bush was the president of the US. Pelosi is, at the end of the day, just another house member. They tried the same strategy in 2006 and lost handily. I also think it's even less effective now, since Pelosi isn't the big democrat, Obama is.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    I don't know about anyone else, but I get tired of seeing political commercials and candidates running for an office and all they can say is "vote for me, I am not as big of an idiot as the other guy". Running a campaign with nothing substantial to say except how awful the other guy is says a lot to me. It says that you have absolutely nothing substantial worth running on. I don't want to know what you think of the other guy or girl, I want to know what YOU THINK, where YOU stand, and YOUR voting record. I will vote for that person each and every time if I agree with them.

    In fact most times when I see those types of commercials on tv, the channel gets changed fairly quickly.

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    From what I've gathered, a crucial crux of the Republicans strategy to win back the house is to try to link Democratic candidates with Nancy Pelosi and essentially run against Pelosi. Excluding the candidate in Pelosi's district of course, do you think this strategy is a good idea for the Republicans?
    That strategy is already in the works - "Stop Pelosi, Ried, Obama" - but it's not showing to be as effective as the GOP had hoped. Why? Probably because it's "attack-mode" politics instead of "issues/agenda driven" politics.

    By campaigning against Pelosi (Ried, Obama), all the GOP will do is galvanize their base, but as another poster put it they won't pull independents, Centrist, Progressives, Moderates into their midst. So, IMO, such a strategy in and of itself wouldn't be very effective. The GOP needs to do more than belittle the other side. They need to present a real plan of change the people can get behind.

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