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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Nancy Pelosi will turn 70 next year, it is time someone younger stepped up to the plate.
    Right, because who wants someone that old having that much power? Why, who does she think she is? Reagan?

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    while more people may be registered democrats than registered republicans, party registration has little to do with individual views except in a very generalized way, and it doesn’t take into account independents and 3rd party members.
    I never said REGISTERED, I simply said there are more Democrats than Republican. (See Party affiliation polls: Partisan Trends - Rasmussen Reports, http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/Party-Affiliation.aspx, http://washingtonindependent.com/435...ross-the-board)

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    And, I disagree – I think such a method WOULD be effective, if their positions on the issues match those of the majority.
    That's where we disagree, I believe more people agree with Democratic views than Republican ideas (my political views aside).
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Right, because who wants someone that old having that much power? Why, who does she think she is? Reagan?
    Quite so, especially when one realizes that Reagon's wife ran to the family astrologer for an answer to any problem so as to permit an Alzhiemer suffering Reagon to be able to respond to whatever came up.
    By and large between them they did a pretty fair job.

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Personally, I don't think 70 is too old. Plenty of people 70 and older are in fine shape mentally and can handle the work.

    Reagan had definite problems, especially in his second term, but that could have happened to someone younger too.

    70, in and of itself, doesn't mean incapable.

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    I think it is a good idea to run again Pelosi. Not that many people really like her right now so why not try and go for it.

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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    I'm pretty skeptical about that approach, because there's a pretty easy rebuttal: "I'm not Nancy Pelosi." This approach is especially unlikely to work against non-incumbent Democrats, most of whom have probably never even met Pelosi. I also doubt it will work in many districts with vulnerable incumbent Democrats. Those tend to be redder districts, and the Democratic representatives from those areas tend to be more conservative. I think the voters would see through it if a Republican accused a Blue Dog Democrat of representing Pelosi's interests.

    The only place I think it could work would be conservative districts where the Democratic incumbent was considerably more liberal than his constituents. But even here, it's not Pelosi specifically that would be an effective albatross around the Democrat's neck...it would be his/her own ideology.

    Ultimately, I think the Republicans will probably have a good election year. I question the confident boasts that they're going to regain Congress when the generic ballot currently shows only a 1-2 point advantage for the Republicans, but it's certainly possible. But regardless of how the election plays out, I don't think Pelosi's views will have much to do with it.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Attacking Speaker Pelosi is too inside baseball for this cycle because most people don't even know who she is. Personally I think the more one learns about this kindly grandmother, the most powerful woman in American history, a politician's politician, the most significant Speaker of the House in half a century or more, the more one has to admire her achievements and give her some credit for succeeding in what formerly was a men-only club. She's one tough cookie and she has brought order to the House at a time when the country really needed the House to function on all cylinders.

    But, more important, local issues will decide this election and that gives Democrats some degree of hope even in the face of Republicans desperately trying to nationalize the election through their attacks of personal destruction. It won't work and this latest campaign is just one more disservice to the nation in the long list of disservices they have performed. I say Republicans have done more harm to this country in the past half century than Al Qaeda and bin Laden could ever have hoped to have inflicted. But why would they change now?
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm pretty skeptical about that approach, because there's a pretty easy rebuttal: "I'm not Nancy Pelosi." This approach is especially unlikely to work against non-incumbent Democrats, most of whom have probably never even met Pelosi. I also doubt it will work in many districts with vulnerable incumbent Democrats. Those tend to be redder districts, and the Democratic representatives from those areas tend to be more conservative. I think the voters would see through it if a Republican accused a Blue Dog Democrat of representing Pelosi's interests.

    The only place I think it could work would be conservative districts where the Democratic incumbent was considerably more liberal than his constituents. But even here, it's not Pelosi specifically that would be an effective albatross around the Democrat's neck...it would be his/her own ideology.

    Ultimately, I think the Republicans will probably have a good election year. I question the confident boasts that they're going to regain Congress when the generic ballot currently shows only a 1-2 point advantage for the Republicans, but it's certainly possible. But regardless of how the election plays out, I don't think Pelosi's views will have much to do with it.
    What I think will be done is adds that show comparisons to Pelosi, who really does have unreal negative numbers. That type of add is done alot in election years, and is very effective. The last 2 election years, Bush was used in that manner, and it did work.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    From what I've gathered, a crucial crux of the Republicans strategy to win back the house is to try to link Democratic candidates with Nancy Pelosi and essentially run against Pelosi. Excluding the candidate in Pelosi's district of course, do you think this strategy is a good idea for the Republicans?
    She is, more or less, the equivalent of Dick Chaney in regards to how people see her.
    I think it could work well.
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    Re: Is running against the Speaker a good campaign strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What I think will be done is adds that show comparisons to Pelosi, who really does have unreal negative numbers. That type of add is done alot in election years, and is very effective. The last 2 election years, Bush was used in that manner, and it did work.
    Yes, but Bush was the president whereas Pelosi is merely the speaker. I really don't think the average voter has a strong opinion about Nancy Pelosi at all. Even during the health care debate, when she exercised her immense power behind the scenes for all it was worth, she never really thrust herself into the spotlight.

    As for her "unreal negative numbers"...they aren't terrible. Her disapprove numbers tend to be in the 40-50% range. And even that doesn't really measure the intensity of disapproval, which I would imagine is not particularly high. A lot of those disapproves are probably "Meh, she's an annoying bitch from San Francisco" rather than "I HATE EVERYTHING SHE STANDS FOR!" That makes it harder yet to campaign against her IMO.
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