View Poll Results: Rate the response and leadership of President Obama to the Gulf Oil Spill

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  • Obama did everything that could be done for the American people from day 1

    6 18.18%
  • Obama was partially engaged and worked hard for the American people and the Gulf

    0 0%
  • Obama was partially engaged and delegated most of the tragedy in the Gulf

    7 21.21%
  • Obama's involvement was negligible at best and really stayed away from Gulf tragedy

    7 21.21%
  • Obama wasn't engaged unti he had no other choice or didn't have Golf or vacation scheduled

    7 21.21%
  • Other / write in

    6 18.18%
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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Okay, you got it. What do you think he's doing to fix the problem?
    He has the government working with BP and is getting briefings. That is the best that can be done under the circumstances. I don't understand what else people could want. Its not like he is a patroleum engineer or roughneck or something.

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Watch the video, take the poll.

    BTW - Day 43 was the Paul McCartney concert award dedication.

    I picked other. Its not his responsibility to handle the leak and it should first be responsibility of BP and the local states to protect their coastline and then the states ask for help if it is too much to handle and then Obama should get the federal government to help with the clean up and give BP the bill for the clean up..
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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think he is doing as good as anyone could expected to be under the circumstances. The man does not possess expertise in this issue and it is something that is best delegated to experts.
    cmon now. The man does not possess expertise in running a bank, or an auto manufacturing business or health care. As president he should delegate! So far there is little evidence he has taken any steps in that direction. Even honest democrats are getting nervous, waiting for him to do something.

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Looking at the poll (it wasn't up during my first post). I really think options 1 and 3 really equate to the same thing. The best thing he can possibly do is be partially engaged and delegate to experts.

    Sorry, but with the way the answers are phrased, I find the poll to be inadequate and biased due to the assumption that him being directly involved is the best possible thing and results in him doing everything he could do.
    As far as I know he doesn't have a degree in Underwater Geology & Topography, so how "directly" involved he can be is the biggest issue here. Is he supposed to be manning the sub himself?

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Where is the option for "He is doing a suuuper job, its NOT HIS job to do anything at all its all BP, but he is in charge and telling BP what to do, and besides its Bush's fault"...?

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman
    He has the government working with BP and is getting briefings. That is the best that can be done under the circumstances. I don't understand what else people could want. Its not like he is a patroleum engineer or roughneck or something.
    Doesn't seem to be helping from my perspective. Having a bunch of random faceless VPs of a corporation shuffling a couple pieces of paper to a collection of Washington talking heads isn't getting a damn thing done.

    As stated before by me and others from the thread, I'm not expecting him to slip on red boots and a cape to save the day. How about letting people who actually DO have some knowledge about the subject organize some things, or at least ponder some potential solutions instead of him coming down and glad-handing a few local yokels a month after the fact in an attempt to "appear" compassionate and concerned.

    Some of you people were the same ones burning Bush at the stake for not inciting panic in a bunch of grade school kids by taking an extra 7 minutes to finish a book. He was criminally negligent for weeks and he's getting a free pass.

    He's not being presidential. He's wanting to look presidential. Remember, this is his first term. He still has much to lose, and the way he's going he's just about lost it.

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Doesn't seem to be helping from my perspective. Having a bunch of random faceless VPs of a corporation shuffling a couple pieces of paper to a collection of Washington talking heads isn't getting a damn thing done.

    As stated before by me and others from the thread, I'm not expecting him to slip on red boots and a cape to save the day. How about letting people who actually DO have some knowledge about the subject organize some things, or at least ponder some potential solutions instead of him coming down and glad-handing a few local yokels a month after the fact in an attempt to "appear" compassionate and concerned.

    Some of you people were the same ones burning Bush at the stake for not inciting panic in a bunch of grade school kids by taking an extra 7 minutes to finish a book. He was criminally negligent for weeks and he's getting a free pass.

    He's not being presidential. He's wanting to look presidential. Remember, this is his first term. He still has much to lose, and the way he's going he's just about lost it.
    Wait. So BP's engineers aren't experts? What actions would you consider to be presidential?

    Quote Originally Posted by country View Post
    cmon now. The man does not possess expertise in running a bank, or an auto manufacturing business or health care. As president he should delegate! So far there is little evidence he has taken any steps in that direction. Even honest democrats are getting nervous, waiting for him to do something.
    He has federal departments with those sorts of expertise though and he has delegated. He has made it clear that the government is overseeing what BP is doing.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 06-04-10 at 01:50 PM.

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Doesn't seem to be helping from my perspective. Having a bunch of random faceless VPs of a corporation shuffling a couple pieces of paper to a collection of Washington talking heads isn't getting a damn thing done.

    As stated before by me and others from the thread, I'm not expecting him to slip on red boots and a cape to save the day. How about letting people who actually DO have some knowledge about the subject organize some things, or at least ponder some potential solutions instead of him coming down and glad-handing a few local yokels a month after the fact in an attempt to "appear" compassionate and concerned.

    Some of you people were the same ones burning Bush at the stake for not inciting panic in a bunch of grade school kids by taking an extra 7 minutes to finish a book. He was criminally negligent for weeks and he's getting a free pass.

    He's not being presidential. He's wanting to look presidential. Remember, this is his first term. He still has much to lose, and the way he's going he's just about lost it.
    Bush remained calm for about 7 minutes. Disappeared on a plane for a long time. Rallied Americans around him for a few weeks (I guarantee you the Right in this country wouldn't rally around Obama if something terrible were to happen, they'd all point and say, I told you so.) And then screwed everything up by not finishing the job in Afghanistan before starting another war.

    Perhaps Obama should talk to the public more - but like I said, unless he's got a degree in mineralogy, topography, or geology then I don't know what you expect him to do aside from consulting experts.

    And I'm sure the moment he does something to punish BP, the Rand Paul types are going to run around screaming about "socialism" again.
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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Obi gets an "S": Sad performance.

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    Re: Grade Obama on the Gulf Oil Spill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Some of you people were the same ones burning Bush at the stake for not inciting panic in a bunch of grade school kids by taking an extra 7 minutes to finish a book. He was criminally negligent for weeks and he's getting a free pass.
    It makes me laugh when people think, "you harassed Bush for nonsense reasons so it's alright for me to harass Obama for nonsense reasons".

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Doesn't seem to be helping from my perspective. Having a bunch of random faceless VPs of a corporation shuffling a couple pieces of paper to a collection of Washington talking heads isn't getting a damn thing done.

    As stated before by me and others from the thread, I'm not expecting him to slip on red boots and a cape to save the day. How about letting people who actually DO have some knowledge about the subject organize some things, or at least ponder some potential solutions instead of him coming down and glad-handing a few local yokels a month after the fact in an attempt to "appear" compassionate and concerned.

    He's not being presidential. He's wanting to look presidential. Remember, this is his first term. He still has much to lose, and the way he's going he's just about lost it.
    Have you ever considered the possibility that many clean up efforts right now would be pointless? Many efforts to stop the oil from getting to land would be a waste of money because it will come ashore anyways?

    All that can be done is to drill a relief well, and only BP can do that. This happened... and as much as you might like to think so, you can't stop the oil from destroying the Gulf and the coast anymore. It is too late. There is nothing anyone could have done, and there is little anyone can do now but hope for the best.

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