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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Personally, I think this was just another lame attempt to make a jab at me because you don't like my personal opinions. Like it or not, what I gave was a complete answer, so get over yourself already. If you can't handle complete answers, well I don't know what to really tell you. Should be well within the abilities of any human.

    And if you weren't being so smarmy and trying to jump on my ass for nothing, as per usual. You would have noted that I said exactly as others have said. If someone threatens the life of an officer, pulls a gun or something like that, it is reasonable to react with deadly force. So try reading and comprehending instead of flying off the handle at all my posts.
    I did read that you agree with the TOPIC of the thread.

    What is your reason for bringing up some asshat dirtbag of a cop beating a handcuffed subject when that is not the topic of debate?
    Lets try to stay on topic then Ikari.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    ABSOLUTELY NOT
    requiring an office to wound in a life threatening situation will only lead to the following

    slower response/reaction time
    hindrance of enforcing law and order
    more law enforcement and victim deaths
    more and braver criminals
    more disorder
    Not to mention, aiming for targets like hands and feet, a smaller more mobile target like this, could lead to more missed shots. These missed shots have to go somewhere, and could pose a greater risk of accidentally wounding the public instead of the suspect.

    While yes this is already an issue that law enforcement faces, which is why it is always important to consider your backdrop when deciding when and where to engage with deadly force, this notion that we now should take time to aim at smaller more mobile targets only makes this problem worse.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I did read that you agree with the TOPIC of the thread.

    What is your reason for bringing up some asshat dirtbag of a cop beating a handcuffed subject when that is not the topic of debate?
    Lets try to stay on topic then Ikari.
    It's called an example. I assumed you were familiar with the term. Guess I was wrong.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's called an example. I assumed you were familiar with the term. Guess I was wrong.
    An example that was off topic nonetheless.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    An example that was off topic nonetheless.
    An example which defined the scope of a previous statement.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?
    I voted no, assuming that you mean direct deadly force threats.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Oh hell no! And no again. That would be the most incredibly stupid **** ever created on planet earth.

    You don't have time to aim for a non-lethal area. You shoot to kill, period.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    SOME cops are trigger happy, with their guns and their tazers....a recent event in Utah had a cop tazing a mentally disturbed man who was unarmed, and either off his meds or having a bad reaction to them. The man died. His family was there and between family and cop they should have been able to tackle him.

    If they have time to shoot to wound, they should make the first shot from a designated shooter to wound any perp with a non firearm weapon. Give that a few seconds, if the perp is still up and threatening, shoot to kill.....
    I read a story about a cop shooting an armed suspect point blank with a .357 magnum, 3 rounds, and the perp turned and ran down an alley. Cop couldn't believe that he had missed. Turns out the perp was on PCP, didn't know he was dead. They found him down the alley, dead, still clutching his weapon. He could have killed the cop, but this time turned out good.
    OTOH, some cops are over confident that they can take out a perp withoug killing him, and it goes bad, and a cop gets killed.

    Nothing is simple in these kinds of situations...
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    The utter morons who would suggest such a policy clearly are completely clueless about

    1) the accuracy of the average police officer or even a skilled one

    2) the stopping power of handguns

    3) the time it takes to acquire a target like a leg when your adversary is shooting to kill you



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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    SOME cops are trigger happy, with their guns and their tazers....a recent event in Utah had a cop tazing a mentally disturbed man who was unarmed, and either off his meds or having a bad reaction to them. The man died. His family was there and between family and cop they should have been able to tackle him.

    If they have time to shoot to wound, they should make the first shot from a designated shooter to wound any perp with a non firearm weapon. Give that a few seconds, if the perp is still up and threatening, shoot to kill.....
    I read a story about a cop shooting an armed suspect point blank with a .357 magnum, 3 rounds, and the perp turned and ran down an alley. Cop couldn't believe that he had missed. Turns out the perp was on PCP, didn't know he was dead. They found him down the alley, dead, still clutching his weapon. He could have killed the cop, but this time turned out good.
    OTOH, some cops are over confident that they can take out a perp withoug killing him, and it goes bad, and a cop gets killed.

    Nothing is simple in these kinds of situations...
    tazers are not designed to be used against someone deploying deadly force against an officer.

    you have a tazer and your opponent has a gun you will most likely die

    if a suspect challenges a cop with a knife or a club, the proper response is to draw a pistol

    two reasons, non lethal means-mace, tazer, etc are notoriously unreliable stoppers

    secondly, drawing a nightstick on a guy with a knife is a challenge. however, if you draw a gun you have given him an honorable option of backing down
    even the toughest biker scum are not going to call a fellow mope a coward for dropping a knife when someone is pointing a 40 caliber at his head.

    now if he backs down to a PR-24 or a tazer that is seriously dent in the cred



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