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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Lets try to bring this into the 20th century before the present one (21st) is over.
    Generally NO to killing using guns.
    Lets see if we can police up some good ideas from those most affected.
    Any intelligent law enforcers out there?
    BTW, the law itself requires reform/improvement.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?
    They should replace all weapons with a peer mediation councilor.
    They should also give potential criminals a bullet proof vest, in case the officer brings his own weapon from home.

    Can't be to careful.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They should replace all weapons with a peer mediation councilor.
    They should also give potential criminals a bullet proof vest, in case the officer brings his own weapon from home.

    Can't be to careful.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Lets try to bring this into the 20th century before the present one (21st) is over.
    Generally NO to killing using guns.
    Lets see if we can police up some good ideas from those most affected.
    Any intelligent law enforcers out there?
    BTW, the law itself requires reform/improvement.

    Spend one week patrolling with a police officer in an inner-city setting and you'll change your mind.

    As it is you don't have a clue.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not quite. If someone is acting in a way that threatens the life of the officer, I have no quarrels with him defending himself and using deadly force. However the amount of force used by police officers in general should not be up to the discretion of the officer. Because they can very easily then abuse said discretion. The actions of the officers should always be reviewed to ensure that they reacted reasonably and did not use excessive force. Such as if a suspect is handcuffed and on the ground...probably shouldn't beat him with nightsticks and boots. But if a guy pulls a gun and a cop shoots him, then that was, IMO, reasonable response by the officer.
    I think you got a wee bit too literal there.

    I do believe the poster was speaking in terms of a reasonable level of force to be used at the discretion of the Officer.

    You know, that guy or gal who is THERE at the time and whose responsibility it is to make a quick decision to safeguard the lives of the public, themselves, their fellow officers, and yes, even the suspect.

    Personally I think this was just another lame attempt to make a jab at officers who act out of accordance with training and policy. Yes, Ikari, we get it, some guys act like complete douchebags..... Moving on....
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    No. I think the majority of police officers do a pretty good job already of using deadly force only when absolutely necessary. Those that don't are unlikely to follow the new law anyway, so it doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    My daddy always told me...if you pull it, be ready to use it. If an officer is threatened enough to pull a gun, he better be shooting to kill, for his safety and the safety of anyone else around. Thats also why they have tasers, sticks, etc. If less force than lethal force is needed, they use other things besides their gun.
    Last edited by BamaBrat; 06-02-10 at 03:14 PM.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I think you got a wee bit too literal there.

    I do believe the poster was speaking in terms of a reasonable level of force to be used at the discretion of the Officer.

    You know, that guy or gal who is THERE at the time and whose responsibility it is to make a quick decision to safeguard the lives of the public, themselves, their fellow officers, and yes, even the suspect.

    Personally I think this was just another lame attempt to make a jab at officers who act out of accordance with training and policy. Yes, Ikari, we get it, some guys act like complete douchebags..... Moving on....
    Personally, I think this was just another lame attempt to make a jab at me because you don't like my personal opinions. Like it or not, what I gave was a complete answer, so get over yourself already. If you can't handle complete answers, well I don't know what to really tell you. Should be well within the abilities of any human.

    And if you weren't being so smarmy and trying to jump on my ass for nothing, as per usual. You would have noted that I said exactly as others have said. If someone threatens the life of an officer, pulls a gun or something like that, it is reasonable to react with deadly force. So try reading and comprehending instead of flying off the handle at all my posts.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Given the inaccuracy of pistols and the high stress nature of shooting, police have trouble even hitting the target, much less aiming for specific body parts. The center of mass is chosen as the main target primarily because it enhances hit probability. To make things worse, incapacitation is fairly random. Unless you hit the central nervous system, pain and shock are the primary means of neutralizing the target. Sometimes a person drops after a single hit, sometimes they keep coming after half a dozen. Realistically, the officer has no control over whether they kill or wound the subject in most circumstances.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Spend one week patrolling with a police officer in an inner-city setting and you'll change your mind.

    As it is you don't have a clue.
    How about you spending one week studying the definition of "civility", Goshin. Then spend another week thinking of what I wrote..... For my entire life(70 years) this business of kill or be killed has been going on....where has it gotten us??
    Bigger, more lethal weapons and flack jackets?
    More body bags?
    Walls between nations?
    What a waste!
    I think we are intelligent beings, there must be a better solution.
    Or, have we come to the limit of our intelligence and we must now revert to being animals?
    BTW, my poll response was "other".
    Last edited by earthworm; 06-02-10 at 06:41 PM.

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