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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Guess I should have made that 2 sentences so everyone can understand what I said. The medics are there to transport the person who is out of control, the BACKUP is there to help subdue. Or did you miss the word BACKUP?
    My guess is that you haven't seen many crazy people being subdued. Being tazed is far less violent.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You want to try to pretend that a politician abusing his power is somehow different than a cop abusing his power, but it's the same.
    LOL. And this is what you do when YOU have nothing left in your tank.
    What you do is ignore what someone wrote and repeat "rights and blah blah"
    Re read what I typed. I stated that your compairson would be the same as stating that a Police Officer took a bribe. They would both be wrong and criminal. They would both be using their position for personal gain.

    In no way does your compairson of a politician taking a bribe relate to an officer who kicks a handcuffed guy a few times after a long chase when the adrenaline is rushing and he has let his emotions get the best of him.

    While both technically "abuse of power" one is a mistake in the heat of the moment, and in my opinion forgivable. The other is a straight up criminal act.


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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    They are both criminal acts. You simply do not want to see one as such because of your innate bias on the subject. Try thinking plz. Kthnxbye
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    From the cop documentaries I've seen they have enough trouble hitting the target at all, without worrying about just wounding people.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Well, I'm gratified to see that this thread remained on a lofty plateau of civil and intellectual discourse, and did not decend into the sort of petty personal bickering as threads often do...





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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    From the cop documentaries I've seen they have enough trouble hitting the target at all, without worrying about just wounding people.
    athe average cop doesn't shoot much

    in 1989 I studied the Local Police Dept. It had 989 cops and they went through 140k rounds that year. since cops could shoot for free at the local police range-it was assumed most of them weren't buying lots of ammo and shooting at non-government ranges.

    the training officer and three of his assistants were responsible for about 40K rounds of ammo. That means the rest shot about 120 Rounds a year and since the qualification course was 60 rounds that meant one qualification course and one practice run a year

    when I was an A class USPSA/IPSC open divisions shooter(back in the Pre-Master days) I was shooting 35-60K rounds a year not counting hours of dry firing, airguns etc.

    trying to be a competent pistol shot shooting 100 -300 rounds a year is akin to trying to be a 5 handicap golfer playing 2 rounds a year



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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    athe average cop doesn't shoot much

    in 1989 I studied the Local Police Dept. It had 989 cops and they went through 140k rounds that year. since cops could shoot for free at the local police range-it was assumed most of them weren't buying lots of ammo and shooting at non-government ranges.

    the training officer and three of his assistants were responsible for about 40K rounds of ammo. That means the rest shot about 120 Rounds a year and since the qualification course was 60 rounds that meant one qualification course and one practice run a year

    when I was an A class USPSA/IPSC open divisions shooter(back in the Pre-Master days) I was shooting 35-60K rounds a year not counting hours of dry firing, airguns etc.

    trying to be a competent pistol shot shooting 100 -300 rounds a year is akin to trying to be a 5 handicap golfer playing 2 rounds a year

    Excluding guys that are on SWAT or similar, this is true: most cops are not all that great with guns. Any serious competition shooter will be faster and more accurate than 95% of ordinary LEOs.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    To shot someone should be a last resort action, not something that the police is required to do.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    To shot someone should be a last resort action, not something that the police is required to do.
    I'm wondering if you understood the question and it's context. The question was "should police be required to shoot to WOUND (as opposed to shooting to stop/kill) when a suspect is threatening someone's life."

    It is a police officer's DUTY to act when someone threatens his own life or the life of an innocent citizen, he does not have the option of doing nothing, or of taking ineffective action, or being squeamish when someone's life is on the line. In most cases the most effective reaction will be to shoot the subject; if the officer fails to shoot the subject when the subject is threatening an innocent life, the officer may be held to have failed in his DUTY to protect the innocent.

    The question was whether they should be required to shoot to wound rather than shooting center-of-mass (which is more often lethal), which is ridiculous because of a variety of practical considerations.

    If you're not sure you can shoot someone at need, don't join the police department, because it is a job requirement.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Not just no but HELL NO !! But then I'm married to a cop.
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