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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It is if the position being fired from is an office which wields the power and soveriegnty of the People and the "being human" part is abuse of said power and improper actions against the rights and liberties of the People while wielding their power and authority.
    Repeating "rights and liberties" blah blah blah doesn't make my statement any less reasonable.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yes, because getting injured by insane maniacs when they do not carry tools for self defense is a part of a paramedics job.
    Guess I should have made that 2 sentences so everyone can understand what I said. The medics are there to transport the person who is out of control, the BACKUP is there to help subdue. Or did you miss the word BACKUP?
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    depends on the outcome....an officer injuring perp is one thing, a seriously maimed or killed perp, that is another....
    Sucks, but that is how it goes. Anyone can be a great guy or gal, and make just ONE mistake, and pay for it the rest of his life. No amount of good evaluations and/or awards will allow for that one really stupid mistake.
    Tain't fair, but it is what it is....
    There is a point where your actions go from being an emotionally driven mistake, to becoming criminal.

    Rodney King would be an example. Rodney King was an example of officers extremely pissed off at that guy and beating him long after he needed to be beat.

    Contrary to popular belief though, It wasn't racism. King's black passenger who surrendered upon King stopping the vehicle was not beaten.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Repeating "rights and liberties" blah blah blah doesn't make my statement any less reasonable.
    No does your claim that your statement is reasonable detract from it being incorrect. It's like saying a politician gets caught taking a huge bribe and it's "Oh, well he's just human. We'll forgive his blatent selling of his vote this time, this is the first time we've ever heard of this guy doing something wrong; so it's ok." No, he's out. Toss him into the street, tell him to get a new job. Any position which wields the power and sovereignty of the people is a position necessarily under extreme scrutiny. Any abuse of our power and sovereignty is rightful grounds for dismissal. Plain and simple.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It is if the position being fired from is an office which wields the power and soveriegnty of the People and the "being human" part is abuse of said power and improper actions against the rights and liberties of the People while wielding their power and authority.
    agree, somehow some of our people in positions of power and authority lose perspective. It is bad enough when it is an unarmed poliltician betraying the public trust, but do we really want to give guns and power to those who can't control themselves?
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    agree, somehow some of our people in positions of power and authority lose perspective.
    This is, sadly, exactly true. And I think it affects well more people on some level more than we're willing to admit.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    He would have been incredibly wrong to do so as well.
    Oh, no doubt he would have been incredibly wrong.

    But you gotta admit, me getting tazed for doing a bit of painting would be pretty funny.
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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Again, please read more carefully. There are THREE situations I am describing...one in town with an asswipe with an attitude who was trying to impress a potential date,
    Did he state that he was trying to impress a date? See here we go again with making assumptions as fact.

    what I wanted, but he was so out of control that he wouldn't let me speak at first.
    No, sorry, engaging you in conversation to find out what you wanted, while trying to keep his attention on the car he has stopped, and now you as well as the roadway, no. you leave the man alone and let him do his job. NEVER roll up on an officer on a traffic stop and pester him with mundane ****.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No does your claim that your statement is reasonable detract from it being incorrect. It's like saying a politician gets caught taking a huge bribe and it's "Oh, well he's just human. We'll forgive his blatent selling of his vote this time, this is the first time we've ever heard of this guy doing something wrong; so it's ok." No, he's out. Toss him into the street, tell him to get a new job. Any position which wields the power and sovereignty of the people is a position necessarily under extreme scrutiny. Any abuse of our power and sovereignty is rightful grounds for dismissal. Plain and simple.
    Your comparison is lame. Taking a huge bribe is not a "heat of the moment" scenario. It would be no different than a police officer taking a bribe to which I would also have to say is criminal.

    If your compairson is how you are looking at my argument you need to go back and re read what I said instead of just blathering on like some kinda anarchist.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Should police be required to shoot to wound suspects who threatening their lives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Your comparison is lame. Taking a huge bribe is not a "heat of the moment" scenario. It would be no different than a police officer taking a bribe to which I would also have to say is criminal.
    You saying my argument is lame doesn't make it any less reasonable. All people who wield the power and sovereignty of the people are subject to extreme scrutiny of the job. That's it. You want to try to pretend that a politician abusing his power is somehow different than a cop abusing his power, but it's the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    If your compairson is how you are looking at my argument you need to go back and re read what I said instead of just blathering on like some kinda anarchist.
    Blah blah blah, this is your typical ad hominem attacks when you have nothing left in your tank.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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