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    Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    This is a hypothetical, though it may very well be something some schools do. Please read the situation and respond accordingly.

    A college decides to increase it's overall enrollment by 100 students, but those 100 students would be selected only from minorities. All other enrollment would be decided based on the same process as in the past, with the 100 students being the best of the minority students who would not normally get accepted at the school due to grades or test scores or whatever.

    Would white students and potential white students have a legitimate grievance that this is unfair to them?
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    I would think it would be, yes.
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I would think it would be, yes.
    Can you explain your reasoning? In the situation, white student enrollment would be unaffected. I am not saying ai disagree with you, just pointing out the argument.
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    There could be an argument made. While it may not affect the overall enrollment of white people, they are still being forbidden for consideration in the additional students allowed. So you could make some discriminatory argument on that basis. In the end, I think everything should be decided along lines of ability, and that's it.
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    By discriminating for one group of people, we inherently discriminate against the other. Legislatively, affirmative discrimination is no better than negative discrimination.
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you explain your reasoning? In the situation, white student enrollment would be unaffected. I am not saying ai disagree with you, just pointing out the argument.
    Discrimination is discrimination as I see it.

    They opened up 100 new positions and are only offering them to minority's? How about offering it to those who are most qualified no matter what race.

    Affirmative action is wrong, and this scenario is no different as far as I can tell.
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    Why can't minorities compete on an even playing field, again?

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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you explain your reasoning? In the situation, white student enrollment would be unaffected. I am not saying ai disagree with you, just pointing out the argument.
    It's simple.
    Those 100 student positions were given to minorities.

    Would you be alright if the other positions were only allowed to be given to white students?
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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you explain your reasoning? In the situation, white student enrollment would be unaffected. I am not saying ai disagree with you, just pointing out the argument.
    Either the students (as a whole) are getting less education because of the 100 students, or the class could have accommodated the 100 extra students without trouble-- in which case, another 100 should have been selected on merit alone.

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    Re: Hypothetical: Additional Enrollemnt for Minorities in Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by HeresToThePoint View Post
    By discriminating for one group of people, we inherently discriminate against the other. Legislatively, affirmative discrimination is no better than negative discrimination.
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    Too bad the hypothetical has nothing to do with "discriminating for one group", as white students are being admitted--in fact more whites will be admitted overall.

    Too bad the hypothetical has nothing to do with legislation, or affirmative discrimination (I guess you mean action)...

    You want to address the hypothetical or just make up your own questions and then answer them?

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