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Thread: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The Mark already did this.
    Quote that post then, oh yeah, you can't because it doesn't exist.

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Actually, yes, yes it is.

    Even if 99.999% of people are of the opinion that a portion of it is one way, that .001% with a differing opinion makes both sides an opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Quote that post then, oh yeah, you can't because it doesn't exist.

    Ummmm I already did. This would be the second time I am including it.
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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    I never said that, try again. I simply said not all things are a matter of opinion. For example, is 2+2=4 an opinion or fact? Learn to read.
    You informed me that they didn't have an opinion, they were just flat-out wrong.
    Now, such a statement is obviously an opinion, as you cannot possibly know, without any fraction of a shadow of a doubt, that they are wrong.

    You can believe they are wrong.

    You can believe that the Constitution of the United States of America says they are wrong.

    But it is still only your opinion that they are wrong.

    And, 2+2=4 is also a matter of opinion.
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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ummmm I already did. This would be the second time I am including it.
    So you are saying because someone disagrees with fact it's their opinion? Wow.

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    You informed me that they didn't have an opinion, they were just flat-out wrong.
    Now, such a statement is obviously an opinion, as you cannot possibly know, without any fraction of a shadow of a doubt, that they are wrong.

    You can believe they are wrong.

    You can believe that the Constitution of the United States of America says they are wrong.

    But it is still only your opinion that they are wrong.

    And, 2+2=4 is also a matter of opinion.
    No, anyone who can read would understand that the example I gave is unconstitutional. Just because someone disagrees with fact doesn't mean it's their opinion.

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    No, anyone who can read would understand that the example I gave is unconstitutional. Just because someone disagrees with fact doesn't mean it's their opinion.
    Actually, yes, that would be their opinion.

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Actually, yes, that would be their opinion.

    No, it wouldn't, that person would just need to learn to read. If a law says don't kill someone and you kill someone, it's a fact that you broke the law, not your opinion.

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    No, it wouldn't, that person would just need to learn to read. If a law says don't kill someone and you kill someone, it's a fact that you broke the law, not your opinion.
    No, it's the opinion of the court that you broke the law - or didn't.
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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, it's the opinion of the court that you broke the law.
    No, it's a fact. I think you need a little lesson on the difference between these two words. A FACT is "an actual event, happening, etc.," whereas an OPINION is a personal view. If someone says "I killed someone" and killing is against the law it's not an opinion of whether that person broke the law. It is an actualy event or happening that a person killed someone. Therefore it is fact. It is also fact that killing is against the law. Therefore it is a fact that the killer broke the law. How much more breaking down do you need?

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    Re: Can a supreme court ruling be unconstitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    No, it's a fact. I think you need a little lesson on the difference between these two words. A FACT is "an actual event, happening, etc.," whereas an OPINION is a personal view. If someone says "I killed someone" and killing is against the law it's not an opinion of whether that person broke the law. It is an actualy event or happening that a person killed someone. Therefore it is fact. It is also fact that killing is against the law. Therefore it is a fact that the killer broke the law. How much more breaking down do you need?
    It is a fact that killing is against the law as the current law against murder is understood. That understanding can always change. I doubt it will in this case as the concept is very deeply embedded in our culture.

    However, language itself is always vulnerable to subjective interpretation, largely dependent on cultural and personal context.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 06-03-10 at 06:22 PM.

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