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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Just because I am disagreeing with you does not make me off topic. I know and understand exactly what you are saying, but I believe you are wrong.



    No it does not. Information does not inherently possess the ability to kill. News does not kill people. People kill people. When you start blaming the news for the choices of individuals, you open freedom of speech up to attack and restriction.



    The proposed rule is a direct line to violating freedom of speech. It is unconstitutional and it should and will be shot down.
    And yet, somehow, your position changes when it comes to the 2nd amendment. Care to elaborate?
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm a little curious -- what part of "Congress shall make no law" does this knuckleheaded Congressman (and anybody who didn't vote "no," for that matter) not understand?
    It was written 200ish years ago by white racist, sexist, slave owners.
    It doesn't apply today.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I admit that I really love the idea of leftist getting a dose of their own medicine. But even though I am pretty sure that none of those scum spoke up when places like Chicago and New York enacted some of the most anti-2nd amendment laws in the country I will still support their right to free speech and freedom of the press.
    Supporting their right to free speech and freedom of the press is the same thing as supporting your right to free speech and freedom of the press.
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It was written 200ish years ago by white racist, sexist, slave owners.
    It doesn't apply today.

    (playing devils advocate)
    I understand you're playing devil's advocate, but even in that light I don't get what your point is.

    I've never made that argument.
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Yeah, I think journalists should need a licence, with a view to keeping a record on how reputable they and the news bodies they represent are.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    Yeah, I think journalists should need a licence, with a view to keeping a record on how reputable they and the news bodies they represent are.
    Who would have the authority to grant or revoke such a license, and what privileges would such a license convey to the holder?
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    ''Who would have the authority to grant or revoke such a license, and what privileges would such a license convey to the holder? ''

    I dont have a firm answer on these, but I am thinking towards everybody should be allowed to have the licence given by an official journalist licence body. They should not revoke any licences, but they should keep records on use and abuse of the journalist rights the holder of the licence has displayed. It could be done a bit like in the way Amnesty keeps records of all human rights abuses that come to their attention, and makes them available to the public.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    I dont have a firm answer on these, but I am thinking towards everybody should be allowed to have the licence given by an official journalist licence body. They should not revoke any licences, but they should keep records on use and abuse of the journalist rights the holder of the licence has displayed. It could be done a bit like in the way Amnesty keeps records of all human rights abuses that come to their attention, and makes them available to the public.
    If everyone gets a license and a license never gets revoked, that makes the licenses useless.

    You can track honesty in reporting without the use of a license.
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    ''If everyone gets a license and a license never gets revoked, that makes the licenses useless.''

    In the US for example, it is already easy to become a journalist. I met an American journalist in Kyrgyzstan, who was working in China. She said, the requirement for her and others to become a journalist was a dare devil attitude, no ties, and clerical speed and accuracy to get the news back to the US before the Chinese authorities could intervene. She did not need to have any qualification from a school for it

    Also, news bodies are starting to encourage reports from ordinary people, who just happen to be in a hot spots when something breaks out.

    Id say, it is up to us to interpret the news we receive, with the help of a reputation system for individuals reporting, since just about anybody is allowed to report the news anyway. We could read the news with a view to how reputable the reporter is. ie are they a tourist with no agenda maybe or a journalist with a licence and a good or bad reputation. I think more open reporting may be one way to override bias in the news, because we will have a larger field to assess.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    I'm completely in agreement, but now it sounds like you've decided that licensing isn't necessary.

    I'm so confused!
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