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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    where is the "hell no" option?

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. But a degree in journalism should be mandatory for all those who want to call themselves 'journalists'. Otherwise they're just loudmouths.
    You mean it should be mandatory that they be indoctrinated ... because that is what the journalism schools are... institutes of socialist indoctrination.

    ... I think that my primary qualification for running a news channel is that I don't have a degree in journalism. I have life experience that goes pretty far beyond all that.

    LAMB: You know that drives people crazy when you say that, in our business.

    AILES: Well, it drives them crazy because they don’t like to think that life experience is the equivalent. But I know people who have been to journalism schools. I speak at journalism schools. I’ve known journalists. I’ve been on the opposite side of journalists from time to time. I know how they think. And I actually think life experience matters. And I ran a business channel before I did this, so it was business news, but view business news as a part of news.

    LAMB: How would you define journalism?

    AILES: Journalism is a collection of stories, editing them and presenting them to the people in some fair manner with as many facts as you can muster to get it through to people. It’s a pretty simple craft. It’s not brain surgery. It’s simple but it’s not easy. And to do it right is hard work.

    LAMB: What do they teach in journalism school?

    AILES: Well, I think they get too political from time to time. I think they draw conclusions for students, at least many of the ones that I’ve talked to. They don’t necessarily teach them the simple things of gather all the facts, present all the facts. I think in many cases they have agendas.


    I was asked by a university to give them some money, and I said -- I went to the university and I taught a couple of classes and I interviewed a bunch of students and I said, I’m not going to give you any money until you can graduate somebody who likes America. It’s not a bad country, you know. And I said, As soon as you get me someone like that, I’ll give you some money.

    Based on what they’re learning, you’d think we live somewhere else.

    LAMB: What evidence did you have at that school that the teachers did not like America?

    AILES: Everything is negative. Everything is about -- look, 95 percent of our people are working, the other 5 percent are basically pretty well taken care of by the government. Health care is not bad here. Bill Clinton did all right under it. Most people who want surgery don’t go to Canada, they try to come here. This is a country where everybody is trying to get in and nobody is trying get out.

    So it just occurs to me that some of that ought to be taught in context. Not that we don’t have problems, not that we don’t have deep problems in our cities, poverty and some other things, but this is the society that has cured and will continue to cure many of those problems. And I think that the context of all that has to be taught. And I don’t see it being taught very often.

    LAMB: If you were to start your own journalism school, how would you teach it?

    AILES: I would just teach to do the facts, be fair, make sure that you’ve got the same weigh if there is more than one point of view to every point of view. I always tell our journalists, reach out to a point of view you don’t agree with and make sure it’s in that story.

    It’s simple stuff, but you have to do it. And I see the other networks -- I saw David Westin the other day take a shot at Fox News. Now David is the process of trying to turn himself into Fred Friendly, he’s a corporate lawyer who’s trying to be a great journalist. But he has got some problems.

    He’s the guy who wanted Leonardo DiCaprio to be a journalist for him. He’s the guy who had his head of politics during the election basically come out and say they didn't have to be fair, they should support Kerry in the debates. I find that odd. I think David's got a lot of work to do in house before he goes out taking a shot at us.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Re: the OP question - No absolutely not.

    But that doesn't mean you get access. Private events can certainly screen journalists and issue press passes.

    Palin won't even speak with a non-fox journalist present. As is her right as a private citizen.

    With public buildings, the safety of the officials and their staff comes first, then ensuring their ability to conduct business in reasonable manner.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    No way in hell...

    The problem is not the journalists, it's the people who listen to them.
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    I voted yes BUT because I have certain ideas in mind.

    Of course i dont want to hinder free speech in anyway what so ever but there are places i have concerns.

    Anybody that wants to write their opinion should be free to do so I have no problem with that. The opinion may be accurate it may not be they might not have a clue what they are talking about and thats fine. Smart people understand the difference ad yes unfortunately there will always be sheep out there that believe what ever and drink the koolaid. So be it im not going to sacrifice free speech for those tools.

    anyway on to my point and correct me if im wrong some journalist are given access to information and locations that others arent allowed now of course some of the info they still cant use cause it is protected one way or another BUT they are still given access to this info and certain locations. Based on that alone YES a certain type of licenses should be needed to those types of journalist. Now if you just sit behind a desk and wite say something like cooking reviews then no of course not but I do think some should need those license or NOT be granted special privileges a normal citizen wouldn't have.
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    No, first I believe in free spech and second I don't think the government should have so much power over the media.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    No, first I believe in free spech and second I don't think the government should have so much power over the media.
    Great points - the government already has influence over the media and we see what that such influence relieves the media from asking tough questions or holding government to task on their actions. It happened in 2001 with Iraq, it's happening now with Obama's Presidency. Imagine what it would be if government now stamps journalists for approval...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    I voted yes BUT because I have certain ideas in mind.

    Of course I don’t want to hinder free speech in anyway what so ever but there are places I have concerns.

    Anybody that wants to write their opinion should be free to do so I have no problem with that. The opinion may be accurate it may not be they might not have a clue what they are talking about and that’s fine. Smart people understand the difference ad yes unfortunately there will always be sheep out there that believe what ever and drink the Kool-Aid. So be it I’m not going to sacrifice free speech for those tools.

    anyway on to my point and correct me if I’m wrong some journalist are given access to information and locations that others aren’t allowed now of course some of the info they still cant use cause it is protected one way or another BUT they are still given access to this info and certain locations. Based on that alone YES a certain type of licenses should be needed to those types of journalist. Now if you just sit behind a desk and write say something like cooking reviews then no of course not but I do think some should need those license or NOT be granted special privileges a normal citizen wouldn't have.
    I will never support a government controlled and regulated "journalistic license" of any kind.

    Now, a private accreditation agency, issuing licenses/certificates to journalists who meet their standards…that’s a whole different story.
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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    I don't care what the reasoning is behind this regulation, my answer is NO.

    Needing a license to be a journalist is one step away from needing a license to write your opinion. If Michigan passes that law it will get shot down by SCOTUS, or at least it should.

    As for equating to 2nd amendment violations, I disagree; when covering the news can kill people, then I might reconsider that view.

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    Re: Should you need a license to be a journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I don't care what the reasoning is behind this regulation, my answer is NO.

    Needing a license to be a journalist is one step away from needing a license to write your opinion. If Michigan passes that law it will get shot down by SCOTUS, or at least it should.

    As for equating to 2nd amendment violations, I disagree; when covering the news can kill people, then I might reconsider that view.
    The news has always had the ability to kill people. Technological advances only give it more potential for such.

    It's just like firearms - in the wrong hands, used incorrectly, it can be deadly.

    Although, the news obviously has less potential to cause death/harm.
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