View Poll Results: Should the law be changed so that gays can serve openly in the military.

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  • Yes, do it now

    79 36.41%
  • Yes, but after the Pentagon completes it study on the issue

    11 5.07%
  • No, do not change the law

    14 6.45%
  • No, DADT should be repealed and gays not allowed to serve at all

    104 47.93%
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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    While the Tea-Party movement hasn't gotten to the point of having military backing, if it ever does, it will be even more dangerous to liberty and the world at large than anything an extremist Lebanese group could contact.

    In short, absolutely.

    I gather that you possibly believe that a Military coup in the USA is not far off , and that our Current President is in some Allende type peril (???) Don't hesitate now.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I don't think you're recognizing the accomplishments of atheists in the anti-Islam movement. I myself have burned a Qur'an in protest, and preached my own downfall to Islam.

    Obviously, I'm not advocating any sort of holy war, but it's bad enough that I have to put up with one bat**** crazy religion in this country; I don't need another. Especially not Islam.

    Strange bedfellows, I know, but still.
    Wow, I've never seen such xenophobic hatefulness from the left, NOT.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    Can you link those groups together (??) Do they coordinate strategy (???) Do they share Mailing lists(???)
    That is what the Christian Identity Movement strives to do. It would like to link a lot of these groups under a single banner, establish a militia dominance in the South, and then strike a wave of terror in the name of God across the United States.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That is what the Christian Identity Movement strives to do. It would like to link a lot of these groups under a single banner, establish a militia dominance in the South, and then strike a wave of terror in the name of God across the United States.

    Any idea as to the leadership in such an endeavor. Do we have a Modern Day Bedford Forrest (???)

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    I gather that you possibly believe that a Military coup in the USA is not far off , and that our Current President is in some Allende type peril (???) Don't hesitate now.
    No, on the contrary, I think that in an ever-globalising world, pressure from more liberal nations, and the EU in particular, will help to keep extremist tendencies in the US from getting out of hand. Furthermore, as the US increasingly declines in importance, these splinter groups of radicals will have to focus more and more on more realistic problems, like getting jobs and raising families, than advancing their intolerant banner to the White House (hopefully).

    And so, no, it was just a hypothetical -- I don't think that the fools in the Tea Party will ever have a major impact on your nation. Or atleast, that's what I hope.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    By the way, regarding the OP:

    I have a general question. Can a democrat serve in the military as an openly, flamboyant protesting liberal democrat? I think the military forces a lot of its servicemen and women to keep quiet about their private lives. Being "openly" gay often translates to flamboyant and proud to be gay. I don't think the military officers would care to see a flamboyant personal attitude affecting their solidified, collectivist morale.

    All I'm saying that being gay shouldn't affect the hiring process, but that being "openly gay" could mean something a little different (because the military generally does not like openly anything except openly patriotic).

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    Any idea as to the leadership in such an endeavor. Do we have a Modern Day Bedford Forrest (???)
    Huh? You asked for examples of extreme Christians. I provided such examples. These are people who have killed and terrorized for decades. What group in the United States has done anything even remotely comparable?

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    By the way, regarding the OP:

    I have a general question. Can a democrat serve in the military as an openly, flamboyant protesting liberal democrat? I think the military forces a lot of its servicemen and women to keep quiet about their private lives. Being "openly" gay often translates to flamboyant and proud to be gay. I don't think the military officers would care to see a flamboyant personal attitude affecting their solidified, collectivist morale.

    All I'm saying that being gay shouldn't affect the hiring process, but that being "openly gay" could mean something a little different (because the military generally does not like openly anything except openly patriotic).
    I think the difference between cleaning toilets with a toothbrush and a cushy desk job could be largely based on how your commander feels about you. There is probably considerable incentive not to be openly "flamboyant" without fear of getting kicked out the military for it.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Huh? You asked for examples of extreme Christians. I provided such examples. These are people who have killed and terrorized for decades. What group in the United States has done anything even remotely comparable?
    This Christian Identity Movement - They are linked with Skinheads, Arryan Nation, KKK, and they have killed(??)

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    This Christian Identity Movement - They are linked with Skinheads, Arryan Nation, KKK, and they have killed(??)
    Yes! They have!

    In fact, here is a nice little wikipedia on Christian terrorism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

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