View Poll Results: Should the law be changed so that gays can serve openly in the military.

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  • Yes, do it now

    79 36.41%
  • Yes, but after the Pentagon completes it study on the issue

    11 5.07%
  • No, do not change the law

    14 6.45%
  • No, DADT should be repealed and gays not allowed to serve at all

    104 47.93%
  • Other, please explain

    9 4.15%
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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Firstly, I don't understand your connexion between gays openly serving in the military and the destruction of the United States Armed Forces entirely -- I hope you'd made a typographical error. If not, and you believe that gays openly serving in the military will destroy the military as we know it, then you're too far gone.

    As well, to answer your questions, yes. Gays can openly serve in all of the major, and most of the minor nations on Earth. The simple fact is that, for whatever reason, be it extremist religious tendencies in the States, or just plain conservative resistance to change, the States seem to be one of the few nation that cares one way or the other whether a person is gay or not.

    Among the other big-name nations that don't allow gays to openly serve? Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia... Some fine bedmates there, mate.

    How about this for a question . Who do you consider a Greater World threat. Those Nations you listed or the United States with it's Religous subdivisions.??? I know this question is not exactly in keeping with this thread , but I get the impression that to You Christianity seems to be an issue.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    How about this for a question . Who do you consider a Greater World threat. Those Nations you listed or the United States with it's Religous subdivisions.??? I know this question is not exactly in keeping with this thread , but I get the impression that to You Christianity seems to be an issue.
    Well, no, not really -- Christianity is fine. Extremism, whether from Christians, Muslims, Neo-Nazis, ultranationalists, NazBolsheviks, or anyone else, is the issue.

    Furthermore, I could make the argument that if the United States continue to go down the path of ultranationalism and extremist Christian ideology, then the US could be, and perhaps is, a greater threat to world stability than a smaller nation like Lebanon subscribing to such theories.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Extremist Christians - Could you name a few (???)

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    Extremist Christians - Could you name a few (???)
    Absolutely -- anyone from the reverend threatening to burn the Koran in Florida, to the Evangelical ministers preaching the downfall of Islam, to the Texan General who a while ago released a press statement saying "Our God is the greatest God, our God is stronger than their God, and our God will lead us to victory against their God in the Middle-East" to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and the rest of the NeoCon and Tea Partying nutjobs.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    You consider the Tea Party people as threats to Democracy and other Religions ?????

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    You consider the Tea Party people as threats to Democracy and other Religions ?????
    While the Tea-Party movement hasn't gotten to the point of having military backing, if it ever does, it will be even more dangerous to liberty and the world at large than anything an extremist Lebanese group could contact.

    In short, absolutely.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Absolutely -- anyone from the reverend threatening to burn the Koran in Florida, to the Evangelical ministers preaching the downfall of Islam, to the Texan General who a while ago released a press statement saying "Our God is the greatest God, our God is stronger than their God, and our God will lead us to victory against their God in the Middle-East" to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and the rest of the NeoCon and Tea Partying nutjobs.
    I don't think you're recognizing the accomplishments of atheists in the anti-Islam movement. I myself have burned a Qur'an in protest, and preached my own downfall to Islam.

    Obviously, I'm not advocating any sort of holy war, but it's bad enough that I have to put up with one bat**** crazy religion in this country; I don't need another. Especially not Islam.

    Strange bedfellows, I know, but still.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    Extremist Christians - Could you name a few (???)
    Klu Klux Klan
    The Aryan Nation
    Family Research Institute
    The Westboro Baptist Church
    The Christian Identity Movement
    etc.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Klu Klux Klan
    The Aryan Nation
    Family Research Institute
    The Westboro Baptist Church
    The Christian Identity Movement
    etc.
    Can you link those groups together (??) Do they coordinate strategy (???) Do they share Mailing lists(???)

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Klu Klux Klan
    The Aryan Nation
    Family Research Institute
    The Westboro Baptist Church
    The Christian Identity Movement
    etc.
    Do the Quiverfulls count?

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